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    hey guys I am 22 years old and my doctor is recommending blood pressure medication. I know it is extremely rare for someone my age to have high blood pressure (on average 150/88) We have been tracking it for several years and I have tried all types of supplements like fish oils, grape seed extract, hawthorn berry, and CO-q10 but nothing is helping.

    Basically my question is; What types of blood pressure medications are best for body builders? Body building is my favorite hobby and I don't want to take a medication that will either hurt my gains, or hurt my performance in the gym. Right now my doctor is recommending Lisinopril..... What do you guys think?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Gus1986 View Post
    hey guys I am 22 years old and my doctor is recommending blood pressure medication. I know it is extremely rare for someone my age to have high blood pressure (on average 150/88) We have been tracking it for several years and I have tried all types of supplements like fish oils, grape seed extract, hawthorn berry, and CO-q10 but nothing is helping.

    Basically my question is; What types of blood pressure medications are best for body builders? Body building is my favorite hobby and I don't want to take a medication that will either hurt my gains, or hurt my performance in the gym. Right now my doctor is recommending Lisinopril..... What do you guys think?
    I'm in the same situation. I've used 3 different meds: Toprol XL, Lisinopril, and Lisinopril HCT (which is just lisinopril with a diuretic).

    Toprol XL made me feel like crap. Lisinopril, both regular and the HCT version have been great. Hardly ever any supplement/drug interactions. It's been side-effect free as far as I can tell. I highly recommend Lisinopril.

    PS - I had to be put on Lisinopril HCT instead of just Lisinopril because my BP wasn't getting low enough from just Lisinopril.. but it's a great BP med IMO!
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  3. thanks for your input ozarka. I am really nervous about taking prescription meds, but maybe I will give lisinopril a shot

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Gus1986 View Post
    thanks for your input ozarka. I am really nervous about taking prescription meds, but maybe I will give lisinopril a shot
    I can definitely feel your pain man. Chances are, it's going to be fine, especially with something like Lisinopril. With Toprol, it slows your heart, and it sucks.. With Lisinopril, all I got were the good side-effects, lowered blood pressure!

    Good luck man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus1986 View Post
    hey guys I am 22 years old and my doctor is recommending blood pressure medication. I know it is extremely rare for someone my age to have high blood pressure (on average 150/88) We have been tracking it for several years and I have tried all types of supplements like fish oils, grape seed extract, hawthorn berry, and CO-q10 but nothing is helping.

    Basically my question is; What types of blood pressure medications are best for body builders? Body building is my favorite hobby and I don't want to take a medication that will either hurt my gains, or hurt my performance in the gym. Right now my doctor is recommending Lisinopril..... What do you guys think?
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  6. I prob need to get on a med too. I'm only twenty one

    ....My grandpa had way high blood pressure and died a few years ago of a heart attack. I think my dad has high blood pressure as well. Fu(k

  7. Sounds like you guys are getting it from genetics, just like myself. Not alot you can do except watch your diet and keep exercising like you are. High BP can cause alot of problems, so don't postpone getting on medication if you need to. I've been on medication now for 10 yrs or more. I have a family history on both sides of high bp, and diabetes. Genetics suck.

  8. Yeah, but did you try cycle support and c-12 peptide? I realize that you tried some of the ingredients in cycle support, but they are combined and in effective dosages. I would consider it. Also, c-12 peptide seems to be a legit ACE inhibitor.

    Also, I figured out my blood pressure readings were off because the doctors were not using an appropiate cuff size. If you arms are bigger than 13 inches, then the blood pressure cuff they use may not be the appropiate size.

    Just some thoughts from my experience with high blood pressure.

    Joe

  9. I usually get mine taken when I'm in the doctors office deathly ill or injured. I'll take it today while I'm normal and see what I get

  10. So far I have taken Lisinopril 10mg for a week and havent had any side effects (except a little dip in blood pressure) no effect on my performance in the gym either

  11. I used Celery seed extract to bring my BP from 140/85 to 110/70 in a couple of weeks and this was during an Epi cycle. I continue to take 1-2 tablets 75mg ED of 85% extract, not just the seeds.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    I'm in the same situation. I've used 3 different meds: Toprol XL, Lisinopril, and Lisinopril HCT (which is just lisinopril with a diuretic).

    Toprol XL made me feel like crap. Lisinopril, both regular and the HCT version have been great. Hardly ever any supplement/drug interactions. It's been side-effect free as far as I can tell. I highly recommend Lisinopril.

    PS - I had to be put on Lisinopril HCT instead of just Lisinopril because my BP wasn't getting low enough from just Lisinopril.. but it's a great BP med IMO!
    good posting ozarkabrand!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by MacTech View Post
    I used Celery seed extract to bring my BP from 140/85 to 110/70 in a couple of weeks and this was during an Epi cycle. I continue to take 1-2 tablets 75mg ED of 85% extract, not just the seeds.
    Where do you get this from?

    Any other natural BP lowering foods that you personally tried?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Omen View Post
    Where do you get this from?

    Any other natural BP lowering foods that you personally tried?
    You can get it from NP. It's Natural Factors brand.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    You can get it from NP. It's Natural Factors brand.

  16. Just remember to keep fiber high, when trying to lower BP/chl.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Omen View Post
    Where do you get this from?

    Any other natural BP lowering foods that you personally tried?
    Try this combination: 50 mg of l-theanine + 100 mg 5-HTP + 150 mg grapeseed extract + 200 mg of hawthorn berry extract + 500 mg of celery seed extract standardized for 3nB twice daily - upon rising for the day, and right before bedtime. It's well worth the money, which isn't much compared to prescription meds.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by allstar View Post
    Just remember to keep fiber high, when trying to lower BP/chl.
    You couldn't pay me money to do that

    The lower my fiber is, the better, I have problems with fiber, even when increasing gradually and for 2 weeks+

    Right now, I'm on a cut to 8%, using albuterol, my BP wasn't really "high" but elevated, once I get off albuterol, eliminate the excess fat, keep increasing my cardiovascular system efficiency, it should go down.

    I bought some celery to eat everyday with my tuna/bean wrap and evening meal(only vegetable I eat other than lettuce).

    Try this combination: 50 mg of l-theanine + 100 mg 5-HTP + 150 mg grapeseed extract + 200 mg of hawthorn berry extract + 500 mg of celery seed extract standardized for 3nB twice daily - upon rising for the day, and right before bedtime. It's well worth the money, which isn't much compared to prescription meds.
    More pills to take! this should put me at 70+ a day!

    I'll look into that...from what I know, it looks good though.

  19. how accurate are the cuffs at like a walmart or a walgreens?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Gus1986 View Post
    thanks for your input ozarka. I am really nervous about taking prescription meds, but maybe I will give lisinopril a shot
    No need to be nervous, this is a tried and tested medication with an excellent track record.
    Lisinopril is an ACE Inhibitor, I've been using Coversyl (also an ACE Inhibitor) for the past 10 months and it brought my blood pressure down significantly.

    One of the positives I first noticed was increased vascularity, and great pumps in the gym.
    ACE inhibitors also increase your metabolism, and are currently being investigated for use in weight loss drugs.

    On a negative side, they will cause your body to retain excessive potassium, so be careful if you are taking any supplements high in potassium.

    OP, best of luck with your BP
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    I have been taking Lisinopril 40mg (max effective dose I think) since I was 19, never had a problem with it. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    how accurate are the cuffs at like a walmart or a walgreens?
    The ones that are free to use are usually pretty accurate, the ones you can buy kinda vary. I have a pretty nice one but it seems to read high on me, though it works fine for everyone else (had it compared by a nurse with a manual cuff)

  23. take a teaspoon of cinnamon daily( i put it in my oatmeal in the a.m.). also go to a chiropractor it has been proven to lower your BP by an average of 17 points. your C1 vertebra being subluxated is related to hypertension. i am not saying to stop your medications but work with a chiropractor as well as you medical doctor and a lot of people are able to get off their hypertension medications. also remember the hypertension medications may have interactions with performance enhancing substances you might be taking so do your home work. epocrates is a good referance.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    how accurate are the cuffs at like a walmart or a walgreens?
    I would disagree with those being a accuate. They are used over and over and over... and can get out of calibration.

    Remember your local fire dept. will check it free any time.

  25. I know this thread is a tad old, but I saw no reason to start another one..

    I have a family history of heart disease.. My father, his father and my mothers mother..

    My endo has been monitoring my bp for several years now.. Its always borderline when I am in his office.. I check it at home and it always seems much lower..

    I will just be straight forward with you guys.. I have cycled off an on for over a decade now.. Sometimes I take long lay offs, a couple have been over 2 years, so its not like I live on and off all the time..

    From time to time i will run a creatine cycle also..and in spring months I will run something like Lipoderm from Hi Tech to shed off extra winter fat..

    I have been starring at this bottle of Azor 5/20 mg for the last couple of months.. Not yet taken any..

    Like someone above posted, I just dont want to have to take a BP med.. Always heard bad ****.. like limp ****, water retention etc etc..

    From what Ozark posted gives me confidence, however are you guys still able to run cycles??

    I dont want to become a statistic and be damaged goods, but i guess I fear the unknown with these BP meds..

    Anyone here taken Azor??

    I plan on taking the med for at least a couple months as long as I dont have any negative sides before I go back to the doc..

    Currently running a short test e and Havoc cycle.. Can I continue with bp meds..

    I have never researched it, as it did not apply to me at the time, however I think my days of not taking a med for my bp are coming to an end..

    Any advice from those of you who have experience with these meds appreciated!!
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