- 12-15-2009, 06:32 PM
-=∞Ω Finally! ULTIMA Goes on Sale! Ω∞=-
:In my best Dr. Nick Riviera voice:
Yes, I finally have some good news to report on Ultima. After nearly a full 12 months of being out of stock, we are finally ready to roll once again.
To bring everyone who may have missed it up to speed, please take a second and scroll through the last announcement:
First, my apologies for not being able to answer questions on here in a more timely manner; I've simply been swamped with various projects and I felt like I was beginning to string you guys along with updates here and there, so I have been wanting to wait to announce something when there was actual new news to discuss.
To dispel any rumors, Omega is not on the verge of death or deep financial ruin. On the contrary, we have just entered into agreement with a very large and reputable company to license Trinitine. This company is in GNC and Vitamin Shoppe and countless other large chain stores, and with their help, we are going to make Trinitine a household name. The very near future for Omega is looking very bright. We'll be making an announcement on this licensing venture as soon as all of the contractual agreements are 'dried'.
Secondly, with regards to Ultima, I am going to be a transparent and honest as I can with you guys.
We have had the flavor and final formula approved since July. Yes, almost 8 months we have been getting the run around from our manufacturer. Let me paint a picture for you so you have a better understanding of what we were dealing with: because of the cost to produce Ultima, I can only run 500-1000 at a time. Other companies routinely run 20,000 - 50,000 of a particular SKU at a time. And then because of all of the GMP mandates coming on board, it created a huge bottle neck in the manufacturing side of things. So a manufacturer looks at their schedule and of course they are going to run their large clients first. I can throw a fit all I want and tell them I am taking our business elsewhere, but the truth of it is that they could care less...making only 1000 of such a complex formula is really more trouble to them than it is worth. SO we are all force to wait, and wait, and wait.
Our very last hiccup was we did not have all of the allergen information together to meet GMP guidelines. Again, something I wish they would have let me know 6 months ago. And since Trinitine is literally a brand new product, we had to commission allergen testing and documentation, which takes some time. Now that all of that is complete and submitted, I have been told they are bottling Ultima in the next 7-10 days, no more BS.
So there you have it straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.
I do sincerely thank everyone for hanging with us this long. now that we have every conceivable wrinkle ironed out, tings should be infinitely more smooth from here on out.
I will be announcing a sale date later this week here first on AM, so please be watching for that.
Again, I sincerely and personally thank you all and give you my word that you will not be disappointed once you finally get to try this stuff out!
Ultima is finished, shipped and in my hands! Yeah, I know what you're thinking, but really, I'm actually serious.
But now to the caveat: As everyone knows all to well, Ultima was supposed to be here literally months ago. Let's just say that getting it a week and a half before Christmas is not ideal for anyone. In fact, I am loaded with family obligations and traveling over the next week and until Christmas. Simply put, I have zero time right now to fill orders.
So, Ultima will officially be on sale starting Friday, January 1st at about 12:00pm central time. Orders will start shipping on Monday, January 4th.
Please do not email me or PM me about ordering early. I will not be around for much of the next week or so, so it's not going to happen, no exceptions.
I am not going to limit purchases to a certain number of units per customer.
All sales will be conducted through ULTIMA - Omega Sports Supplements.
Retailers should have their stock about 3 weeks after Jan 1st, depending on how fast they update their website.
All international orders are welcomed and from all of last run, we did not have any problems with customs.
Once again, I sincerely thank you for your personal and professional support through all of this. I've not been a fun person to be around going on 5 months now...this has really taken a toll on me in the business sense as well as the personal stress and headaches.
Be on the lookout for special announcements for possible volume deals and/or freebies. It will largely depend on if there is enough time to get a run of t-shirts printed again. Stay tuned for that.
Thanks very much,
Just a tiny portion of the feedback for those of who who did not get in on the first run or whatever.
And did I mention that the formula has been updated and improved? Oh yeah.
Direct links available upon request.
Are you freakin kidding me with this stuff? That was the best non ph/ps workout I have ever experinced. No way in hell that it was a placebo effect, I had awesome pumps/endurance/focus/strength, on the very first workout Finally, a product that lives up to the hype 100%. I can't wait for my next workout.I have been in this game since the early 90's, and I have to say Ultima is the best supplement I have ever tried. I can't believe how good I felt during my workout yesterday.HOOLLLYYY S**ITT!
I had focus, energy, and clarity like I couldn't believe. TORE through my leg workout!! I left almost no time between sets. Squats, Hack Squats, Lunges, SLDL's. Nothing could slow me down. Oh and I speed roped (jump rope) for 20 minutes afterwards.
I didn't think it could get any better.. It just hasI hit PRs on essentially all my lifts the past four weeks. I am indefinitely stronger and am the strongest I have ever been. My diet is also the worst its ever been. With Ultima I feel so great in the gym. Two thumbs up!I would just like to comment that I have two Ultima workouts under my belt. I have been doing HALF a serving sipped/nursed for 20-30 minutes before the gym, a lot of the gulps swished in my mouth/under the tounge. Focus is great, feelings of well being are elevated, strength and endurance seem to be up already. So far, so very good. Goodbye stims.Buds, I preach this loudly from my soapbox. Ultima was made for mornings. I hit the gym before 5am M-F. Nothing clears the cobwebs like Ultima. Not Dew, not stim pills, not coffee, nothing else comes remotely close. And I'm a junkie. I've done everything but chase the dragon. This stuff just flat-out gets it done.So, its been almost 4 weeks using Ultima and I overall couldn't be happier. I really wish I could afford more of this, or afford it at all for that matter, but with school next year and just finding a job, Ultima is like a treat for me. My brain loves this stuff, each day I use it the focus factor is fantastic and the gym experience is great! I love it, I really do. To date, this is the most effective supplement I have ever used.So as a recomp product, as well as a product that will allow you to make progress in endurance/cardio as well as strength, this is stand-alone the best product I have ever used. I have already farmed out this product to several friends, co-workers, and my mother. Several of whom have purchased it subsequently. This is the only supplement that I've ever taken that I would recommend for just about anyone looking to improve health and fitness.For muscles or not, health wise and for ergogenic benefit it still slaughters everything (else) times a million.Overall I no longer believe "Ultima is the best supplement ever" is hyperbole; no bad workouts, no "off" days, no brain fog, no half-assing, no bull****. Ultima is the real deal. I'll give a final review once I finish the tub, but I'll say right now that I've found a new staple supp. 10/10Ultima is something I strongly feel should be supplemented by everyone interested in maintaining optimal brain functioning, especially the older guys out there. I consider it as much a staple as fish oil and protein.Fantastic alpha male feel. No fatigue, no zoning, no rest. I just got in and hit every part of my body DC style in 45 minutes. I was full on dripping sweat by the time I was done with my first set. Tunnel vision, laser vision, x ray vision, whatever you wanna call it, it was there in full force. I still have quite a bit of that focus even as I type this out now.Ok, this was a 1st I can chaulk up to some interesting strength effects of Ultima... I have become superhuman strong it seems... I busted the damn chest press machine with the weight maxed and on the concentric phase of my lift... the belt snapped and a metal bar came down on my head, leaving me a nice bump on my noggin.Todays workout was absolutely incredible. One of the best I've ever had. I'm really starting to notice some serious strength gains too. Today was a chest/arms day, I noticed that the time I spent between sets was drastically reduced. I also noticed that my intensity during each set was nuts! I even added in a couple extra sets because I felt amazing. After lifting, I hopped on an elliptical. I usually run about 3 miles on my chest/arm day, but today when I hit three I felt as though I had just stepped in the gym. I wasn't the least bit ready to leave. I ended up running for 5 miles, but could of kept going longer, much longer. I left the gym feeling like I could go back in and do it all over again. This product is incredible.At this point, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna have to put in an order for more ultima in the near future(before the formula and price change), nothing non-hormonal as ever worked this well or this quick for me in the ergogenic realm. nothing.I started drinking it 30 minutes before w/o then continued about 10-15minutes into w/o . Focus, concentration ,and endurance were unreal during my workout. Strength was the same but mental strength was way up. I left the gym still feeling pumped,refreshed and full of energy , which continued for several hrs afterward w/ no crash whatsoever. It kinda surprised me cause there was no real "stim " feeling at all just clean energy.Focus - I wasn't 'in the zone', I was the zone. I have a good amount of experience with nootropics and this was absolutely on par with some of the best. I've used. The mind muscle connection was fantastic. After a long day and being damn tired, it made my workout much easier than expected and actually enjoyable. My carbs are fairly restricted and I often feel out of it and unfocused but today I was 100% present, and it lasted through the end of my workout.I absolutely love the cognitive effects of the product and the strength gains are great. This is the strongest I have been to date, in my entire life. I feel bigger as well.
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I ran my last 2 jugs of Ultima with Plcar, and it was awesome. How do you think it would be if I combined it with Pre-Max, which has a hefty dose of GPLC? Should be amazing!
12-17-2009, 08:39 AM
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12-17-2009, 12:04 PM
Well I guess after waiting this long I will have to give Utima a try. The timing will be good for me since I am currently evaluating PreMax, and RagNOrok. This will allow be to establish a basis for the evaluation of Ultima against both of these products.
12-18-2009, 11:13 AM
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12-20-2009, 02:47 PM
In making the changes, we of course had to weigh all of the options.
I mean we could have added all the ingredients and extra amounts we did and not decreased the Carnosine and the B12, which admittedly was the hardest choice, but this would then be retailing in the neighborhood of $70. Not very realistic.
We feel the decrease in Carnosine is permissbale given the double amount of Beta-Alanine if you follow the upper-tier dosing protocol. Given this change, we do not forsee any discernable decrease in performance. I challened anyone not to have unbelievable workouts on 3200mg of beta-alanine and 400mg of Carnosine, or even half that if following the standard dose, ecspecially with everything else working in synergistic harmony.
You'll also get double the creatine and double the amount of glucuronolactone with the upper-tier dosing.
All in all, I personally think we struck a great balance in deciding what to increase and what had to be decreased, ecspecially considering ~75% of the beta-users were using 1/2 dose of the old formula.
12-20-2009, 03:55 PM
I only used 1/2 a serving on the beta...so I am really looking forward to this! Can't wait to get some when its available.
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12-20-2009, 11:12 PM
What about the decrease in choline sources (DMAE, CDP Choline)? Also, could you explain the science behind decreasing the carnosine? It seems you've also decreased the AACA significantly.
The methylation blend seems to have also decreased in potency with cuts in TMG, Manganese, Selenium, etc. What is the reasoning behind this?
Finally, why is a former half dose now a "full dose?" I understand that its possible to get great results from half dosing, but didn't Custom, Shawn, and Dana formulate this with clinically proven doses in mind which is why the dosing was as such on the beta?
Thanks for the response. Looking forward to learning more about the final product.
12-21-2009, 01:35 AM
More info from BB.com. Just being clear that I am not bashing this product, and still think it will be best in class. I just loved the beta as is (especially w/ aniracetam and plcar added) and am curious as to the changes.
Is there any way to do a revision with more Carnosine/AACA/b12, or would that be cost-prohibitive (for just those ingredients)?
Again to be clear, I will be buying anyway.
12-21-2009, 09:59 AM
We could certainly re-evaluate adding more Carnosine or MB12, but it would be at the expense of the doubled amounts of creatine, beta alanine and glucuronolactone.
In a perfect world, we would be able to evaluate all of the formula tweaks in controlled settings to truly establish the best balance of ingredients, but obviously that is not really in the realm of possibility right now.
We'll continue to dig into the literature and keep a very close eye on user feedback to continually evaluate any needs for more tweaks that may arise.
12-21-2009, 10:18 AM
One of the primary benefits that I want in a preworkout drink is a good "pump". The "pump" greatly motivates me during my workout. Don't get me wrong I like the other benefits but a good "pump" is essential as far as I am concerned. What kind of results, as far as the "pump" is concerned, did the beta users esperience?
12-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Truthfully, Ultima was not really a pump product since it is actually pretty meaningless as far as actual muscle growth is concerned.
However, many other people echoed your thoughts and that is why we added a hefty dose of GMS to this revised formula. I've had a couple of workouts now on this new version and I can say the pumps are pretty ridiculous.
12-21-2009, 02:47 PM
12-21-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm a firm beleiver in whatever helps you get the most out of a workout. Different strokes for different folks.
12-21-2009, 05:08 PM
I think after reading Dana's further musings over on BB.com, the formula still seems good/serviceable. The one major caveat he has to this is the cutting of the carnosine content.
Even if the other ingredients are not escalated, do you think you could just up the carnosine content to 400mg per dose?
Or alternatively, will carnosine be included in the add-on product?
Do racetams still stack well w/ the new Ultima formula?
12-22-2009, 09:14 AM
Well, I think the product is far more than just "good".
If we did not have such a large dose of beta-alanine, I would certainly be in agreement about the carnosine levels. However, with the two working in conjunction, we really felt it was the best way to move forward.
Any racetams would still stack nicely.
12-22-2009, 12:29 PM
There is a complexity here that I have gone into more depth for the book for over the course of the last two days. Some things will merely have to wait for the masses. I think the consumer will probably find it more stimulating to read without all secrets revealed in these threads though.If we did not have such a large dose of beta-alanine, I would certainly be in agreement about the carnosine levels. However, with the two working in conjunction, we really felt it was the best way to move forward.
Again, my only concern would be those that harbor the condition - trimethylaminuria which I spoke of at bb.com and myself have.Any racetams would still stack nicely.
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12-23-2009, 02:20 AM
12-23-2009, 03:39 AM
Is there a chance of having a version come out without the additional GMS and stims associated w/ the revised product?
As you probably noticed, a lot of us used this as a maintenance supplement with daily dosing in smaller quantities and I don't think we would want to take stims/GMS, etc on a daily basis for no reason.
Is there a version that could be be aimed toward the general health/preventive market?
12-23-2009, 05:56 AM
[quote=pedro321;2247093]Will the book be included with the product??[quote]
Unlikely...as people will likely buy more than one in many instances...I don't think need to have 30 of these books sitting around at multiple hundred pages...how to distribute is still a TBA.
There certainly is a lot to this tale.Im actually really looking forward to reading it to find out exactly what its doing inside of me!lol
I ran 3 tubs of the beta and all I have to say is I felt better than I ever did!
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