Pinning in just one site.
- 06-11-2013, 03:41 PM
Pinning in just one site.
So I know I might receive some flack for this. However, I'm going to ask away. For the first two weeks of my test E cycle I injected only in the right quad. Hurt like hell, and more or less reeked havoc on my psyche. So I started pinning in my right delt, was easier for me to wrap my mind around and have had success since. So, that would mean I've been pinning there for almost 6 weeks. I'm not worried about an absence forming, as my delt doesn't feel lumpy, there is absolutely no pip either. So I didn't think to change the site. My question is, does anyone else do this, with a long ester can you get away with this. As I'm injecting every 4 days. If so whats the minimum amount of injection sites one can use. Im planning on using both delts then having the wife pin in my lats. Being as she's a nurse I should have had her pinning all the time but hey, pride goeth before the fall.
- 06-11-2013, 03:54 PM
How much are you pinning each time? Why not at least rotate the quad and delt?PES Representativehttp://pescience.com/insider http://facebook.com/pescience
- 06-11-2013, 04:05 PM
I'm pinning 250mg a time. I really don't have a good reason I just hate pinning in my leg. I just feel gross doing it. I hope by having 4 injections sites (delts/lats) it will be a better scenario then this.
06-11-2013, 05:58 PM
You run the risk of developing scar tissue in the site you repeatedly use. Also, in 4 days you are not allowing the depot to fully deplete, messing up the cleavage of esters.
06-11-2013, 07:13 PM
So are you saying 4 days apart are to close for injecting. Or just in the same spot? Not trying to argue, I really don't know.
06-11-2013, 07:26 PM
06-11-2013, 09:25 PM
So what will that do to gains exactly?
06-12-2013, 07:07 AM
06-12-2013, 12:53 PM
Alright so a few things on my mind. My strength and weight has gone up substantially on my cycle so far. Thursday will mark week 8. Could this be mostly as a result of the oral tbol that I took to kick start the cycle if Im on trt? The next pressing question is how can I save my first cycle, Im actually happy with the results I just want to know I have one good cycle under my belt. If I change the ejection sites for the next two weeks will that help get the levels to where they need to be? Or should I up the dose, or go for 12 weeks instead of the originally planned 10? Or do I need to cut my losses and accept this as somewhat of a failure and just learn from it. I suppose there are worse things then gaining 20 pounds on trt. Just to be clear my first two weeks I hit the quads, then the last 5 have been various parts of my right delt, lower, upper, interior and posterior.
06-12-2013, 01:32 PM
Oh and last tid bit that might be important. For the first 6 weeks I pinned every Monday Thursday. The last two weeks I've pinned every Tuesday Friday.
06-12-2013, 01:34 PM
Way too complicated to figure all that out. You would expect gains even on 200mgs a week. So that isn't surprising. You're pumping test into your system, and it will eventually be used once it hits the blood stream. Think of it this way: You have five balloons the size of a baseball. You punch a small hole in each one. By the time you get to the 5th balloon, the first one is deflated, then the 2nd and so on. On the other hand, use one balloon and punch a small hole in it, but fill it up faster than it can release the air. The five small balloons will be deflated well before the one balloon releases the same volume with one small hole. So you hold back the release when you fill the same depot with oil. You want each depot to empty into your system without added obstruction. Remember that half lives are based on 100mgs of oil plus ester weight. So if you inject 2mgs, the half life is not the same, it'll be longer, and less stable. In your case, you injected in a site that has good blood flow, so the depot would be reduced faster than in the glute area. So when it's all said and done, you probably didn't hinder and gains, but when you asked if there was any down side to injecting in the same depot, I just wanted to make you aware that rotating is better and scarring is less of a problem.
06-13-2013, 12:47 AM
06-13-2013, 12:08 PM
If u feel gross pinning quads wait till u get some nice layer of scar tissue. Pushing a needle in hard as fuk and not going in almost bending from ur skin is gross and scary.
06-13-2013, 03:19 PM
Yea that would be fairly f'd. Hopefully I will be able to go in the quads or lats consistantly before it gets to that point.
06-14-2013, 06:53 PM
I would recommend rotating. For 1.5 cycles I only did VG and then I found it difficult to get through the skin a few weeks ago. I began doing delts and I can pin my VGs easily again. Delts are very easy to pin.
06-15-2013, 08:22 AM
What do you guys think about pinning delts with 5/8th ?
06-15-2013, 08:35 AM
06-15-2013, 08:40 AM
Jw. But guys that have been on TRT for 20+ years, do you really think they rotate between 12 or so possible injection sites- or stick to 2-3...?
06-15-2013, 08:48 AM
06-15-2013, 08:49 AM
Thanks Big Shadow I've been doing it too with good results. Just wanted to make sure I'm getting deep enough
06-15-2013, 09:14 AM
I pinned for ten weeks twice a week alternating delts last cycle and now I cant even get a needle in there haha I fudgeded up
06-15-2013, 10:35 AM
It all depends! Do you have boulders for shoulders? If no then 5/8-1/2 is fine for delts, pecs, lats, calves etc. once I pinned my quad with a 5/8 pin and a day later my knee looked like it was twice as big as the other one. I'm not sure if the oil leaked out and didn't get deep enough. But I do know the oil traveled to my knee. It sucked.
06-15-2013, 10:52 AM
06-15-2013, 10:56 AM
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