- 05-11-2013, 11:28 PM
So I'm about a week into a DMZ cycle at 45 a day and I've been experiencing headaches all day long every day since the beginning. I'm taking cycle support as well as aegis and stano. I've tried taking baby aspirin to get rid of the headache but it does nothing and I bought some Hawthorne berry extract pills at a local supermarket. I've been taking all this but the headaches continue.NY suggestions on how to get rid of this?
- 05-12-2013, 06:38 AM
Check your blood pressure, that's probably the culprit. If it is try bumping up hawthorne berry. Also dehydration could cause this, make sure you are drinking enough water. I usually drink at least 2.5-3L a day(3.8L is one gallon)."Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
05-12-2013, 06:46 PM
05-12-2013, 07:23 PM
So I upped the Hawthorne and I normally drink around a gallon a day. Today's been better with the headaches. Slight pressure in my forehead and temples but nothing compared to the past couple days. I'll post again if there's any changes.
05-13-2013, 03:10 AM
05-13-2013, 10:52 PM
So today this morning the headaches went away but I was surprised to see a ****ing river of blood coming out of my nose. Then starting around 8pm my whole body started to hurt as if I had the flu. I'm lowering the dose from 45 to 30 tomorrow, see how that treats me.
05-13-2013, 11:55 PM
05-14-2013, 05:49 AM
05-14-2013, 10:49 PM
well 45 days is a bit long, that said do what you want. I think it's either BP or hematocrit or a combination of both. Check BP if high take 8oz 100% beet root juice every 8hrs. will lower bp quick, also eat 4-5 bananas ED and give blood ASAP. Also like previously mentioned hydrate a ton. Should fix ya up
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05-17-2013, 09:45 PM
Bro it sounds like your bp is sky high. You should be checking it daily anyway. But I suggest stopping dmz immediately and get this **** under control. You don't wanna **** around and have a heart attack or something. Next time I suggest you start at the lowest dose possible and increase it if sides aren't present. You shouldn't have let this go on this long.
05-17-2013, 10:09 PM
I dropped the dosage to 30 and for the past couple days i haven't had any headaches or bloody noses. I have had a small amount of red in my mucus when I blow my nose but that's not too often. I'm going to have my bp checked out tomorrow I'll post what it is then.
05-17-2013, 11:57 PM
05-18-2013, 04:37 PM
05-18-2013, 06:18 PM
05-18-2013, 06:29 PM
05-18-2013, 07:44 PM
That's not stroke blood pressure, but over enough years it will be a major health issue.
If that's not just an anamolus reading or related to the cycle, you need blood pressure medications. I've seen people in their early 40s who have had chronic, untreated stage one hypertension require dialysis due to the hammering their kidneys took over the years. Hypertension wreaks havoc on small blood vessels.
"I'm not fat, I'm big boned!"
05-18-2013, 07:47 PM
05-19-2013, 04:12 AM
Strange that your systolic is that high and your diastolic is actually near the lower end of the normal range. 80 is considered "optimal" for diastolic, nothing at all to worry about though. Here's a chart for reference:
"Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
05-19-2013, 10:47 AM
05-19-2013, 03:55 PM
05-19-2013, 06:31 PM
05-19-2013, 06:48 PM
Just out of curiosity, since now you're in damage control mode, do you have a specialist working with you for your hypertension? Did they ever discover the etiology? There is always a reason.
Also, at your size you really need to make sure they're not basing your eGFR off of your creatinine levels. Creatinine levels are directly proportional to muscle size. There are alternative ways to measure which I'm not familiar with, but a nephrologist or some other hypertension specialist would be.
"I'm not fat, I'm big boned!"
05-19-2013, 07:38 PM
05-19-2013, 07:45 PM
Okay, now the good news is that creatinine you're looking at is probably elevated for a number of reasons not relating to your renal function and is more concerning to you than it should be because (a) if you're suppelementing creatine, it raises creatinine in a clinically non-significant way, and (b) muscle mass also raises creatinine in a clinical non-significant way. No promises there, but a big muscular guy who (I'm assuming) takes creatine is going to have a high creatinine and the calculated eGFR will come out low.
Having said that, your BP really should be 120's or lower. If you're concerned about it, get a monitor, check it several times throughout the day at home. If you're higher than that, your BP meds need to be adjusted. If you went such a long time with high BP that is not well controlled, I'd ask your doc to get you a renal function panel that doesn't look at creatinine. I think Cystatin C is the marker people are following these days for cases where they want to tease out little nuances like this, but I"m not certain because, like I said, I'm newly graduated (which means still in training and technically incompetent) and I've not actually needed to look into it before.
Just out of curiosity, what was your creatinine?
"I'm not fat, I'm big boned!"
05-20-2013, 02:07 PM
My last Creatinine was 1.50 (0.60-1.30). I do not take creatine supplements. My iron and ferritin were high, but I can explain that so I'm not concerned.BUN, potassium and BUN/creatinine ratio were good.
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