Test prop or E????????

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Getting my next two cycles

EQ 600mg week x 15 weeks
Dbol 40mg daily x 4weeks
Test E or prop? At 500mg weekly x 12weeks

Doin alot of research but wanted some experienced individuals to give me a site that's good to research my question or back there words with science.

Second cycle preparing for
Test E or prop 750 weekly x10weeks
Mastron 600 weekly eod pinning x 8weeks
Anavar... Not sure how much to really do here to gain great results and how long??

Goin to have caber, cialis, arimadex on hand
Animal pak and milk thistle drops
 
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Getting my next two cycles

EQ 600mg week x 15 weeks
Dbol 40mg daily x 4weeks
Test E or prop? At 500mg weekly x 12weeks

Doin alot of research but wanted some experienced individuals to give me a site that's good to research my question or back there words with science.

Second cycle preparing for
Test E or prop 750 weekly x10weeks
Mastron 600 weekly eod pinning x 8weeks
Anavar... Not sure how much to really do here to gain great results and how long??

Goin to have caber, cialis, arimadex on hand
Animal pak and milk thistle drops
How did you plan to use the Prop, EOD? ED? Don't really understand how you are going to use the 500mgs... Just remember that 500mgs of test e = 355mgs of pure test while 500 Test Prop will = 400mgs. Test prop is usually 75mgs/mL.

Test Prop kicks in in one week, whereas Test E in about 4 weeks. I prefer short esters every time.
 
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You know, why not use both? M-T Test E 250mgs then Test Prop EOD M-W-F. That would be the best of both worlds.
 
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You know, why not use both? M-T Test E 250mgs then Test Prop EOD M-W-F. That would be the best of both worlds.
I'd be doin the prop Ed but hmm I like you thought process on both but would that really work???
 
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With Prop just pin EOD. It would work great. Right now, on my fast cruise phase, I'm doing exactly that with Test A. I pin 400mgs of test e per week and do Test A EOD. I prefer Test A over Prop, but both are so close it's a wash.
 
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I say prop taper and if you want a prop kickstart. Are you talking about mast prop or eth? Why in the first cycle are you running the test for a shorter time than the EQ?
 
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I say prop taper and if you want a prop kickstart. Are you talking about mast prop or eth? Why in the first cycle are you running the test for a shorter time than the EQ?
Just did a little researching and from what I understood the EQ those last couple weeks without test will give you a more dry and vascular look
 
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I was gana run mast prop but it looks like all need to up it to 700mg a week and pin Ed
 
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Just did a little researching and from what I understood the EQ those last couple weeks without test will give you a more dry and vascular look
Or you could continue to run test, cut out the dbol replace it with a test p kickstart and run winny at the end, along with a test prop tapper.
 
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Or you could continue to run test, cut out the dbol replace it with a test p kickstart and run winny at the end, along with a test prop tapper.
I agree with this also, but I would run the Prop all the way through. Keep it as a kick start all the way through to taper.
 

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I agree with this also, but I would run the Prop all the way through. Keep it as a kick start all the way through to taper.
Not to thread jack, but my test p kickstart ended yesterday. I was considering keeping it going. Now I've already been taking test e at 500 mg/week. If I keep running the prop, should I adjust my test e doses or should I just keep running both knowing that its 850 mg/week of test instead of the 500 mg I originally planned. Thanks.
 
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start out with test e and deca at same time, than 4-8 weeks before PCT, switch to prop.

example

1-12 test e, switch to test prop for additional 4-6weeks
1-12 deca, than drop it
 
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start out with test e and deca at same time, than 4-8 weeks before PCT, switch to prop.

example

1-12 test e, switch to test prop for additional 4-6weeks
1-12 deca, than drop it
That's what I'm doin on this cycle I'm on now
1st cycle actually
 
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I was goin to run a mast prop at 100mg eod
Would you consider tren ace with the test eth? Just seems to be cheaper in the long run since mast has to be at a higher dose.having to stick eod on test prop and well all the short esters but it is up to you depending on your budget. Its just nicer having quicker results with the shorter esters if you can stand the frequent sticks and lighter wallet!

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First cycle.. Use test E

Second cycle... Use test P


Nobody goes by ester weight. That guy is make it thing more complicated for people. Prop is stronger but the eod pins are not needed unless you like the pinning. Most don't.
 
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Would you consider tren ace with the test eth? Just seems to be cheaper in the long run since mast has to be at a higher dose.having to stick eod on test prop and well all the short esters but it is up to you depending on your budget. Its just nicer having quicker results with the shorter esters if you can stand the frequent sticks and lighter wallet!

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Not gana lie I'm a newbie so tren does kinda worry me to use. Just researching it and just not sure if my knowledge level is advanced enough to run any ester of tren.
Any info or experience you have though would be very helpful to me.

Money isn't an extreme worry of mine as long as I'm getting quality product.
 
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First cycle.. Use test E

Second cycle... Use test P


Nobody goes by ester weight. That guy is make it thing more complicated for people. Prop is stronger but the eod pins are not needed unless you like the pinning. Most don't.
Nothing complicated about knowing the esters. "You" may not go by actually strength of what you're injecting, but given his question, it's important. For you to say prop is stronger is actually not only more confusing, it's incorrect. That's why if ester weights seem complicated to you it's a good idea to study them so you can advise with greater accuracy.
 
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This could be a real rookie question but can you mix different products into one syringe? Say you have 100mg mast prop and 150mg test prop?
 

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yea u can. No biggie. Btw u have to pin prop at least EOD for fully stable blood levels. And the more educated members can tell u that thats the name of the game with short esters. Also, be familiar w ester weights to keep ur dosing as accurate as possible.
 
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yea u can. No biggie. Btw u have to pin prop at least EOD for fully stable blood levels. And the more educated members can tell u that thats the name of the game with short esters. Also, be familiar w ester weights to keep ur dosing as accurate as possible.
Do you have a site or reference that I could read more on the weight subject? Not to familiar
 

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