Summer cycle thoughts
- 02-26-2013, 06:02 PM
Summer cycle thoughts
Ok guys, been gone from this site for a while but back on now for advice. 1st my history & stats. I'm 29. 195 lbs about 14-15% BF. been running cycles since I was 25. With test since 2010. My first two cycles using test my acne was manageable and nothing to really be concerned with. However my cycle last summer was 16 weeks of test E then switched to test P the last 4-6 wks I believe. I also kicked off with 8 wks of anavar at 60mgs and finish with 4 wks of oral whinny. Best cycle in terms of body comp & gains but the acne was INSANE!!!! Left permanent scarring on my once baby face and my back and chest were extremely horrid! Doctor put me on accutane last month after months of failed attempts with antibiotics. Yes I still have it but its finally clearing up. PCT ended in Oct.
I'm here to gain your advice and suggestions for my summer cycle. My goals are as always to harden up and completely shred. I would love to get to 10% BF or lower while making decent lean gains. Not real concerned with lots of mass just want to stay lean hard & ripped. What are your thoughts? Is there a certain ester of test that contributes to acne more than the other? Or is there any NON test cycles you all would recommend? Also I do NOT want to kill my libido!! I need my penis to work!
Diet is very good & on point
Thank you gentlemen for your much appreciated support.
- 02-26-2013, 06:24 PM
Ever thought of "New School Hormone Use" as in our LEAN-CUT product?...see link below. ...just throwing it out there and yes it's a new generation DHEA derivative that'll deliver and perhaps it's all you need considering your goals are not that huge...and sides effects and recovery are simple BTW. Just thought I'd chime in thats all.
Good luck either way bro.
- 02-26-2013, 06:33 PM
Don't see any link. Did you attached one? Is whatever you're repping similar to this RS Transaderm I keep hearing about?
02-26-2013, 06:35 PM
02-26-2013, 06:36 PM
I should add that I DO want to gain some size just doesn't need to be a lot. Wanna keep everything dry
02-26-2013, 06:40 PM
I'm favoring running a log on LEAN-CUT in the near future with pics to prove it's effectiveness.
02-26-2013, 06:45 PM
02-26-2013, 06:48 PM
No offense but ill probably stick to the tried & true. It hasn't let me Down accept with acne. Thank you though
Anyone else have any suggestions ?!
02-26-2013, 06:49 PM
02-27-2013, 09:34 AM
Bump for suggestions.
Would a low dose of test P like say 350 mg a week along with Var help me achieve what I'm after without the acne? Or should I just stay away from test all together? My last cycle the acne was so bad it scared me from test all together. But I just didn't know whether I used bad gear or not
02-27-2013, 10:03 PM
how about this...
wks 1-6 1-alpha
wks 4-9 550-xd
wks 7-12 epi-v
this would get the size you want initially, while maintaining the size but recomping through the middle of the cycle, then getting shredded the last 4 weeks
02-28-2013, 10:20 AM
Sounds Interesting. What exactly are the first 2 compounds or what common compounds could I compare them too? I've taking just about every pro hormone out, which do these compare to? Also I'm assuming Epi-V is like epistane? Please elaborate in further detail . What can I expect in regards to results & sides?? How about libido, lethargy etc?
Also should I run Rs transaderm with it?
02-28-2013, 10:47 AM
RS transaderm is def something I would keep on hand. I ran a 1-alpha and 550xd cycle a couple months ago and used a similar product about half way through cycle. Lethargy only popped up when I transitioned from 1-alpha to 550xd, and I didn't transition smoothly like the plan above would allow for. Libido can take a hit with 1-alpha depending on dosage but the transaderm would help with that anyway
02-28-2013, 11:01 AM
Cool. Explain what exactly is 1-test?
02-28-2013, 08:09 PM
I was thinking an 8 week low dose test Prop 350mg maybe and run 80 mg anavar alongside. What do you guys think? Would that produce the shredded results I'm looking for with out crazy acne??
02-28-2013, 08:39 PM
02-28-2013, 08:40 PM
02-28-2013, 09:05 PM
02-28-2013, 09:20 PM
02-28-2013, 09:25 PM
since you posted in the old school hormone section i will offer you an old school option. finaflex and androfactory stuff are good products but youve kind of already passed that. test is best but tren is king. i cut with tren. it is awesome. if you have few cycles under your belt i would try a low dose test low dose tren cycle. like 50mg of test p and 50mg of tren a ed. add in some T3 and clen or albuteral. id stay away from winny or mast if you have acne problems. and keeping the test low might keep the acne under control too(maybe, maybe not)
test p 50mg ed for 8 weeks
tren a 50mg ed for 6 weeks
(t3 and clen there are various ways you can run it, youll have to figure out what works for you)
T3 50mcg- what every you can handle (i normally tollerate 100mcg pretty well)
this will cut you up.
The issue i see is that you are 193lbs at 15% bf. this means that you have ~30lbs of fat. i think you need to work on your diet a little. secondly tren is a big step, it is a serious roid. research it well may sure you have all the ancillary's before hand. and start low. if you run it responsibly tren will do some pretty amazing things. "man made tren, Tren makes Gods"
and as for the guy say that the Finaflex stack is like 100mg of anavar. thats not true. at no doses would any of those products be anything like anavar at 100mg.
02-28-2013, 10:48 PM
02-28-2013, 11:06 PM
im hoping it will work out.
i can run the crap out of T3, but clen is another story. i keeep it at 40-50mcg
02-28-2013, 11:22 PM
Honestly I'd rather see this guy take safer shyt like who I rep for than fuk with t3 and clen. First off t3 is for serious use only, and I would never recommend it unless it was for a show. Second why are people even taking clen anymore? That shyt is soooooo bad for your system and it literally destroys your heart and makes you feel like death... Third tren is extreme as well. Everything you advised the OP to take is way over the top for someone who just wants to look good in the summer... No way Jose. And as for what I said about var at 100 ed I wasn't lying, but var solo not stacked with test... Get your facts straight Jack
02-28-2013, 11:29 PM
02-28-2013, 11:49 PM
The finaflex line up is good stuff I'm actually a fan of there products. But the are not old school hormones, they are dhea compounds. I would recommend them to anyone who is not already using injectables.
I still disagree that a 12 week stack of finaflex products would be as good as 100mg of Anavar. That's why people buy Anavar. I'm sure u can get great results from epi v and the others but 100mg of Anavar removes excess fat second only to tren. IMHO
02-28-2013, 11:51 PM
02-28-2013, 11:55 PM
Also, the thyroid while being something that recovers well is just one thing I'd rather not mess with personally. At least I know that if my test levels drop and lack the ability to recover I can go on trt. The thyroid on the other hand, well...
02-28-2013, 11:57 PM
02-28-2013, 11:57 PM
02-28-2013, 11:58 PM
03-01-2013, 12:03 AM
03-01-2013, 12:07 AM
03-01-2013, 12:09 AM
As far as low prop high var, idk. I'm sure it would work fine. Tren is king.
03-01-2013, 12:09 AM
03-01-2013, 12:10 AM
03-01-2013, 12:13 AM
03-01-2013, 12:21 AM
03-01-2013, 12:46 AM
Are u on accutain pills or cream. The pills are extremely rough on the liver. If ur on pills I would highly recommend against taking oral steroids.
Any dht based steroid can increase acne. Winny, mast. There are others but they evade me right now.
Test I would run low 200-350 per week
Tren I would run everyday 50mg and up. I'd start at 50 and increase till ur at 100mg Ed. If 100 is to much u can lower dose. It's short ester.
Imagine if ur using the pill form of accutain don't take Anavar.
If its the cream
I'd run the Anavar at 100mg for the full 8 weeks.
Priam Is like caber. It's for progestion related gyno. Letro is an extremely strong Ai. If sides get out of control use letro. I think the lower u go with the test the less sides u'll have. Might not need ether but buy them just in case. I'd suggest t3 because tren down regulates ur natural t3 production. And the thyroid is what controls ur matabolism.
Sorry about spelling, I'm on my phone.
It sounds like ur at ~10% bf can't before sure with out picks.
03-01-2013, 12:48 AM
Might want gerbil to help with dosing layout. I tend to go a bit heavy on my doses.
03-01-2013, 12:51 AM
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