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    I think the sides are exaggerated. Yeah u can run 50mg Ed for 8 weeks. That's how I normally run it. Next cycle I'm going for 100mg Ed. Tren is insane. I lose bf rapidly, but it makes me look huge. Just ripped and jacked. 50mg is a good beginners dose. I've Hurd of some people run 30mg Ed. I personally like the feeling of 50. I think u will too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Might want gerbil to help with dosing layout. I tend to go a bit heavy on my doses.
    Huh?
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    I would go test 200mg weekly 40mg ed tren work it up to 50mg then max out at 75mg daily which will give you 525mg of tren a week which is more than enough for a first tren cycle. Throw in some winny and you will have something going on.

    Thats what I would do unless you wanted to use prop then thats what I would use.
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    Oh yeah and caber or prami on hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    I would go test 200mg weekly 40mg ed tren work it up to 50mg then max out at 75mg daily which will give you 525mg of tren a week which is more than enough for a first tren cycle. Throw in some winny and you will have something going on.

    Thats what I would do unless you wanted to use prop then thats what I would use.
    Thanks gerbil. Keep in mind like I stated in prior posts above. I really want to avoid the acne risk as much as possible and I'm a sales trainer & motivational speaker so I can be an emotional wreck either or shirt fused. So will those doses you suggest cause much if that or should I keep it lower? Also do you suggest 8 wks? And if I run tren at 50mg with test prop will I need the Var?
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    Test and tren is really all u need. Some people throw in Anavar or winny but tren is what gives u the most dramatic effects. And unless ur some what emotionally unstable to begin with then u probably won't have any issues while On.
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    Cool. How about acne on 300 mg test prop & 50mg ED of tren?
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    I honestly have no idea, I've never had acne problems. There are a lot of test/tren logs. Check them out. Give u an idea of what to expect
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    I guess the better question would be: What sort of sides should I expect from a low dose Test prop 250-300 mg wk: tren ace 50mg ED for 8 wks?? Again last cycle I ran test a lot higher and for 16 wks finishing with winny and broke out in nasty cystic deep rooted acne. Def trying to avoid that this time!!!
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    Low test use only for sexual functions. Relay on the tren for your 'gains'. Test and tren both compete for same receptors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    I really need to figure out my dosages on clen. My source of clen is almost too pure. At 60mcg I am a bit jittery at 100mcg I feel like meth would have a less jarring effect. I just need to find my sweet spot.
    Try spacing it out thru the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    Low test use only for sexual functions. Relay on the tren for your 'gains'. Test and tren both compete for same receptors.
    Yeah that's why I was gonna keep the test Prop low mainly for libido. The tren is what I'm relying on for this cycle, past cycles were to build size with test. I'm where I am happy in that regard. The goal this go round to to shred to the max. Maybe add some size but don't need it to be dramatic. Just want to be hard & ripped while keeping sides at bay. Mainly Acne!! What do you think about sides at these dosages?

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    Start the tren at 50ed but bump it up eventually. Aim for like 350/525 test/tren per week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nc5590 View Post
    Ok guys, been gone from this site for a while but back on now for advice. 1st my history & stats. I'm 29. 195 lbs about 14-15% BF. been running cycles since I was 25. With test since 2010. My first two cycles using test my acne was manageable and nothing to really be concerned with. However my cycle last summer was 16 weeks of test E then switched to test P the last 4-6 wks I believe. I also kicked off with 8 wks of anavar at 60mgs and finish with 4 wks of oral whinny. Best cycle in terms of body comp & gains but the acne was INSANE!!!! Left permanent scarring on my once baby face and my back and chest were extremely horrid! Doctor put me on accutane last month after months of failed attempts with antibiotics. Yes I still have it but its finally clearing up. PCT ended in Oct.

    I'm here to gain your advice and suggestions for my summer cycle. My goals are as always to harden up and completely shred. I would love to get to 10% BF or lower while making decent lean gains. Not real concerned with lots of mass just want to stay lean hard & ripped. What are your thoughts? Is there a certain ester of test that contributes to acne more than the other? Or is there any NON test cycles you all would recommend? Also I do NOT want to kill my libido!! I need my penis to work!

    Diet is very good & on point

    Thank you gentlemen for your much appreciated support.
    Just a word of advice, I went on accutane years ago and now have Crohns disease. There has been a link made between the two, therefore there is evidence to show that accutane can potentially cause Ulcerative Colitis, IBS and/or Crohns disease which are all auto immune diseases that will wreck havoc on your training and gains. I got mine under control but most people never do. Just wanted to say be careful and ask your doctor if there is ANY other treatment possibility...if I could go back I would DEFINITLY not have taken accutane (I too exhausted all my treatment options)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    Start the tren at 50ed but bump it up eventually. Aim for like 350/525 test/tren per week.
    Thanks, is 525mg considered a low dose for tren? Also what do you think of 8 wks?
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    I want this cycle to be as comprehensive as possible in combating all sides. Especially limp d*ck. I keep hearing of caber & prami but I've never heard of either until I started researching tren. Please advise on ancillaries. Thanks
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    Limp dick ? Lol it'll work better than when u were 15 and the high school slut walked by
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    Limp dick ? Lol it'll work better than when u were 15 and the high school slut walked by
    Really??? Everything I read on tren advises that tren will cause limp dick. Hell if it will improve it like you're saying then I'm super excited to Rock this cycle out then
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    You need adequate test dose to go along wit the tren like 50-75mg test p Ed. Adding mast to this even at a low dose like 350mg/week will take care of any sexual problems. Pharma proviron is excellent at sexual functions better than Viagra
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    Ok thanks for all the advice guys. I'm going to be ordering this week. Before I do so I want to lay out the perfect PCT for this cycle. I've used nolvadex or clomid for every other cycle. To be honest I want to stay away from clomid. It makes me too depressed. Is nolva a great choice for a test/tren pct? Or would any of you recommend something else. Also what else should I add additionally?

    My cycle is as follows:
    Test prop 350mg
    Tren ace 50mg ED possibly will bump to 75
    Hcgenerate while on cycle and into pct
    Proviron 50mg ED

    I have Adex on hand. Will I need it??
    Also should I order caber? I hear ppl saying I should with tren?

    I want this cycle & pct to be as comprehensive as needed so I would like your advice on everything I need to order.

    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    You need adequate test dose to go along wit the tren like 50-75mg test p Ed. Adding mast to this even at a low dose like 350mg/week will take care of any sexual problems. Pharma proviron is excellent at sexual functions better than Viagra
    Good to know
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    Ok I have it all planned out. Cycle will be as followed:

    8 weeks
    Test prop: 350 wk
    Tren ace: 350 wk
    Proviron: 50mg ED
    Hcgenerate: 5 caps ED

    Pct I have nolva. But my question is what would you all recommend as a serm for this cycle, or will nolva suffice? I want to avoid clomid this time due to the depression it causes. Also is there anything else you would throw into cycle or PCT?

    Thanks for all your help so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nc5590
    Hey bud you were pretty helpful on my thread. Thanks. I'm planning on placing my order this week for test prop 350mg/ tren ace 350mg for 8 wks. Before I do, what ancillaries would you recommend with tren? I hear ppl talk about the need of using caber, is that a good idea to help with sexual function Or proviron or both? Again I want this cycle to be comprehensive & very effective with as few sides as possible.
    Op u really needa send me a pm when I continuously answered all those questions in my precious reply.

    It's just annoying
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post

    Op u really needa send me a pm when I continuously answered all those questions in my precious reply.

    It's just annoying
    Yea I posted this the same time I sent you a PM. Wanted to collect several responses. Then you responded, so thanks for your help
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    how about this...

    wks 1-6 1-alpha
    wks 4-9 550-xd
    wks 7-12 epi-v

    this would get the size you want initially, while maintaining the size but recomping through the middle of the cycle, then getting shredded the last 4 weeks
    I just bought all of the above thanks to you Palmfist. Going to be doing it this summer. Is there any special pct for these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    I just bought all of the above thanks to you Palmfist. Going to be doing it this summer. Is there any special pct for these?
    PM me dog. Ill get you covered, though Im pretty sure we went over everything already a couple weeks ago
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