Did it work for some people? Absolutely. Did it deliver as promised? Maybe for some. But either way it wasn't as good as some of your other preban phs that were out there
If y'all like them, then use them. Im hot a fan, and i gave my opinion as to why. If you don't like my opinion, then take it with a grain of salt.
Im not claiming that they don't save a role in many cycles or that they can't be used efficiently, i just don't have use for them in cycles and routines and would rather use the real deal
[QUOTE=MANotaur;3938818]And i mistakenly typed Dienolone when i should have typed diendione...sorry auto correct and i didn't realize it
But Dienolone either way is a tren clone and is nowhere near as effective.
My opinion is unchanged however because the same principle applies. /QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MANotaur;3938902]Dienolone was marketed as an alternative to trenbolone...which would make it a clone..
Do you know what you're talking about dienolone is a powerful steroid of itself.
The people who believed that it was a ph with a conversion to Trenbolone were just not that bright.
The original 19 nor tren that was everywhere, that not too long ago was banned. It did not convert to dienolone it was straight dienolone.Originally Posted by MANotaur
I said in an earlier post that it converted to dienolone but I now remember it was just straight dienolone.Originally Posted by Bigchourico
I know they weren't all that bright...but it doesn't change the fact that that is how it was marketed.
I know it is an active steroids hormone, how powerful it is debatable. I tried it once and wasnt impressed. I might have gained 5 lbs from an 8 week run. Im sorry, that was my last experience with a ph/ds and wasn't impressed.
To say that i don't know what Im talking about is wrong. I tried to stay objective both it and explain Ehh i prefer not to use any phs
[QUOTE=MANotaur;3938959]I know they weren't all that bright...but it doesn't change the fact that that is how it was marketed.
So what if they did??
If they marketed Pink Magic as the clone to Anadrol.. I'm not going to post on a forum saying "pink magic is an Anadrol clone"
I ran pro dienolone, the 19nor version of "tren". Was it tren? The answer is no. Was it good? The answer is yes. Are PH/PS a waste? I'd say that that question can only be answered by the user and his/her personal experience with the product itself. Some people are non-responders to different compounds, whereas those same compounds can have astounding results with others.
The best an individual can do, when trying to decide on what compound to use in order to achieve their desired results is to gather as much information as possible on which compound to use, analyze that information, narrow down best possible compounds for said goals, and start eating pills.
The fact is, this argument can go on all day long and no one will be right or wrong, unless they deliberately posted inaccurate information. That being said, we all have our personal opinions on this matter, and most of these opinions are pretty respectable. There are facts, though, that are indisputable. Methyls ARE harmful to the liver. The extent to which they are harmful is individually dependent, and risks can be mitigated through proper supplementation.
On the subject of transdermals...epidermal permeability barrier. That's all I have to say.
OP, there are risks to everything you are going to do. Do your best to mitigate risk, PCT through one of many known and proven protocols, find out for yourself which is your best option and call it a day. Truthfully, that's how most of us found out...
Oh, and this should have been posted in the cycle info spot. It's on your app.
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i was wrong, i clarified that i thought. I had a misundertanding early on as to what was being asked.
Dienolone does not convert to trenbolone. I admit that i had said that and thats my fault for not staying up with the most recent fads in the ph world. last ph i was familiar with was trenavar (original) that was trendione, which converted to trenbolone. aparently there was another compound called trenazone (dienalone) that was marketed as a trenbolone clone or to be very similar to trenbolone. after trendione was banned, trenavar went through several reformulations that went through multiple conversion processes to make it compliant. I somehow pulled the thought that dienolone was one of those compounds...it might have been called something similar to that, it might not have been, either way i was wrong and i figured it out, and admitted it. its cool. its been dropped
man this thread went south quickly
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