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    If you are reading this, thank you for following. I've been looking into upcoming competitions and two have sparked my interest:

    5/4 NPC Spartan Bodybuilding Championships *National Qualifier*

    6/8 NPC Southern California Bodybuilding Championships *National Qualifier*

    I'm looking at heavyweight and 5'9 physique, but with me being roughly 185 and needing to be a lean 198+ I might need to go as a light heavy weight. I know it's better to be smaller and leaner than bigger and softer.

    The first one is in 10 weeks, the 2nd in 15, so 70 and 105 days respectively. I may or may not do 5/4, not sure if I want to give myself 10 or 15 weeks. I'm kinda wanting to aim at 15 weeks, but do the one in 10 weeks as well. I wouldn't add tren tell after the first event just to see how well I do without it. Not saying I'm not trying to do well in the first one, but anything that needs work at 10 weeks could be worked on over the next 5. Any advice on how to best do this will be greatly appreciated.

    As of right now this is my cycle lay out:

    ----Dbol---Drol--EQ-----Test---Var
    1---20/d--40/d--600/w--250/w-0
    2---20/d--40/d--600/w--250/w-0
    3---20/d--40/d--600/w--250/w-0
    4---20/d--40/d--600/w--650/w-0
    5---0-----0------600/w--475/w-0
    6---0-----0------600/w--475/w-80/d
    7---0-----0------600/w--250/w-80/d
    8---0-----0------600/w--250/w-80/d
    9---0-----0------600/w--125/w-80/d
    10--0-----0------600/w--125/w-80/d
    7-10 Clen 20/40/40/60
    1-10 Exem 25/d
    1-10 Clomid 50/d

    So I'm bulking right now, and then adding in a lot of test during cessation of Dbol/Drol to try and hold onto as much weight as possible(bc so much of the weight gain over the next couple weeks is water weight). In the following weeks I will continue to have a slight surplus of calories, switching to a slight deficit around week 7(when I start clen), and I may also add t3 in week 9 or 10.

    ----Mast--Tren--EQ-----Test---Var
    11-550/w-0-----600/w--475/w-80/d
    12-350/w-0-----600/w--250/w-80/d
    13-350/w-0-----600/w--250/w-80/d
    14-350/w-25/d--600/w--225/w-0
    15-350/w-25/d--600/w--150/w-0
    12-15 Clen 40/40/60/60
    11-15 Exem 25/d
    11-15 Clomid 50/d

    So in week 14 & 15 I'm feeling out whether or not I should stay on var or kick it up a notch with tren. I'm thinking that adding in the mast in week 11 will make a big enough difference to keep me from needing to switch over. I may just switch the var for winni in the last week or two, but I'm kind of looking to minimize variables. Slight surplus in calories week 11/12 slight deficit 13/14/15, once again adding t3 week 14 or 15.

    I will go over diet over the next couple weeks, but right now I'm trying to eat as much clean calories as possible.

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    Right on, was fallowing your last thread!
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    In but a bit confused on your layout is thatt saying you are running clomid while on gear?
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    Day: 1 - 66 days out

    Weight: 184


    Just trying to eat as many clean calories as possible. Mostly eggs, cheese, whole grain toast,, granola/vegi protein/powdered almonds, Greek yogurt, non fat milk, oatmeal, tuna pasta, noodles with liquid aminos, tofu, salmon/lean pork/lean beef/chicken breast on rice/quinoa/barley/bulgar wheat/couscous. Some vegis, dark greens and fruit as well.

    Strength and energy is awesome, feels like I'm throwing around pillows, but I dunno about the aggression - I'm super inclined to get super pissed and start yelling. My buddy says that's the Drol.

    I'm looking a little bit softer but a lot bigger, and I'm still super vascular. Need to start tanning, pantethine isn't working super well and my skin is freaking out a bit. I think it's cause my body temp is up and I'm sweating all the time.
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    Thanks everyone for following, it is much appreciated. Will post some progress pics soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    In but a bit confused on your layout is thatt saying you are running clomid while on gear?
    Yes Im running Clomid in place of hcg, it's an experiment me and 4 of my friends are trying. I had read Clomid is prescribed to trt patients having trouble conceiving and I speculated that increased sperm count on cycle would mean warding of testicular atrophy. So far we've all had the same experience - increased load volume and enlarged testis. So not only have they not shrunk, they've grown. Won't really know how well it works tell pct.
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    Current workout program:

    A:
    Bench 10x10
    Tbar row 10x10
    Straight leg deadlift 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Tricep pulldown 2x30
    Cable pec flies 2x30
    Lat pullover 2x30
    Side delt 2x30
    Leg curl 2x30

    B:
    Over head press 10x10
    Lat pulldown 10x10
    Leg press 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Hammer curls 2x30
    Shrug 2x30
    Lat shrug 2x30
    Front delt 2x30
    Quad extension 2x30

    C:
    Dips 10x10
    Upright rows 10x10
    Squat 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Pec hold 2x60s
    Skull crusher2x30
    Reverse grip preacher curl 2x30
    Rear delt 2x30
    Glute hold 2x60s
    Frequently skipped due to knee pain, and an ABA BAB schedule turns out.

    Then on the in between days I do calf press 10x10, core and cardio.

    I also do thumbless grip on a number of lifts as well as forearm iso when using cables. I also focus on one muscle rather than both for a few lifts - eg I do one sided shrugs.

    That gets me going about x5 a week, but it's a lot of volume and I feel it the next day or two. This isn't permanent but I'm trying to put on size right now and thought gvt sounded interesting. Of course this is different, sort of my version of it. Loving it so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Current workout program:

    A:
    Bench 10x10
    Tbar row 10x10
    Straight leg deadlift 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Tricep pulldown 2x30
    Cable pec flies 2x30
    Lat pullover 2x30
    Side delt 2x30

    B:
    Over head press 10x10
    Lat pulldown 10x10
    Leg press 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Hammer curls 2x30
    Shrug 2x30
    Lat shrug 2x30
    Front delt 2x30

    C:
    Dips 10x10
    Upright rows 10x10
    Squat 10x10
    60s rest between sets
    Pec hold 2x30
    Skull crusher2x30
    Reverse grip preacher curl 2x30
    Rear delt 2x30
    Frequently skipped due to knee pain, and an ABA BAB schedule turns out.

    Then on the in between days I do calf press 10x10, core and cardio.

    I also do thumbless grip on a number of lifts as well as forearm iso when using cables. I also focus on one muscle rather than both for a few lifts - eg I do one sided shrugs.

    That gets me going about x5 a week, but it's a lot of volume and I feel it the next day or two. This isn't permanent but I'm trying to put on size right now and thought gvt sounded interesting. Of course this is different, sort of my version of it. Loving it so far.
    Interesting program. German high volume training mixed with 2x30s.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    Interesting program. German high volume training mixed with 2x30s.
    Ya I'm combining a few concepts. I had been doing a 3x30 program after reading a study that stated it causes similar hypertrophy as 3x10. I had already been incorporating some high volume at the end of a strangling 5x5 program to promote additional growth. I had switched to full 3x30 program to try and pt some injuries I had gotten in strength training after a motorcycle accident. So 5x5 and HST - the previous workout program I had used - had both worked out well for me, and I continued with the same full body idea in 3x30. The problem with 3x30 is I plateaud and couldn't break past certain weights. So yes it provided good growth for me and made my injuries a lot better, but I wanted to get stronger and increase my mass. So I took gvt but instead of doing a 3 day split in 5 days I did a 5 day split in 7 days with 3 full body workouts. And then I decided to apply the 3x30 after the 3 core exercises for added blood flow/pumps and to tear up the muscle a bit more. I get it all done in about an hour too, and then stretch for 15 mins, and I'm really liking it. I feel like I'm getting stronger and growing really well again, and it leaves me really sore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Here! Get going sir
    Good to see you here, looks like we're both training for comp at the same time. When's your event?
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    Hey smash, how long do you rest between sets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod View Post
    Hey smash, how long do you rest between sets?
    The 10x10 sets have 60s rest breaks, although gvt is supposed to be 90s. I might try 90s if I get to a weight that's difficult to finish a set. I'm also a little off on the the rep time, but I'm pretty close to 3s a rep.

    The 2x30 rests aren't really timed, I just wait tell I feel rested.
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    Day: 3 - 64 days out

    Weight: 185

    My hunger kinda sucked the last two days and I didn't see any weight gain. I do think I look bigger and I think I was just dehydrated. I spent the whole day in the water. Did Workout A, and it was pretty awesome, I'm thinking I can do 10 lb increases than my usual 5lb.
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    That's pretty intense!
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    I just tried your A workout today and it was alot of fun. Hope you are doing well good sir.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod View Post
    That's pretty intense!
    Ya it gets my heart rate up and gets me sweating pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    I just tried your A workout today and it was alot of fun. Hope you are doing well good sir.
    Ya I'm really enjoying this program as well, and this is prolly the first time I've seriously timed my sets, gives it a competitive feel. How'd the 60s rests treat you? For me it seems pretty easy at first but when you get past 5 sets it starts getting pretty difficult. You going to try B or C? Ive taken awhile to hone three groups that feel pretty well rounded to me, and it'd be cool to see that it works for someone else and not just me.

    I forgot leg iso so double check that cause I have it edited. Also let me know if you are unsure about anything or have any questions about the names of exercises. I also use the progressive loading protocol from stronglift 5x5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Ya I'm really enjoying this program as well, and this is prolly the first time I've seriously timed my sets, gives it a competitive feel. How'd the 60s rests treat you? For me it seems pretty easy at first but when you get past 5 sets it starts getting pretty difficult. You going to try B or C? Ive taken awhile to hone three groups that feel pretty well rounded to me, and it'd be cool to see that it works for someone else and not just me.

    I forgot leg iso so double check that cause I have it edited. Also let me know if you are unsure about anything or have any questions about the names of exercises. I also use the progressive loading protocol from stronglift 5x5.
    The 60 seconds rest works well. The only one I had a problem with on A day was the t-bar rows, because I had to strip weight and adjust for my partner then redo. So I was throwing 45 plates around a lot. The dead lifts was fun only did 225lbs for 10x10 I think I am going either around 250 or 275 next time. Also the Laterals is a bastard child.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
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    I am intending on doing b and c. Also what are Glut holds and Pec holds?
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
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    How did the 10x10 dead lifts feel? I'm thinking of doing that today with 225. Did you also rest for 60s between sets?
    Think I'd pass out lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Yes Im running Clomid in place of hcg, it's an experiment me and 4 of my friends are trying. I had read Clomid is prescribed to trt patients having trouble conceiving and I speculated that increased sperm count on cycle would mean warding of testicular atrophy. So far we've all had the same experience - increased load volume and enlarged testis. So not only have they not shrunk, they've grown. Won't really know how well it works tell pct.
    oh dude ofcourse. your speculations will turn to truth. 50mg eod is plenty. ur girl wont even know wats going on lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod View Post
    How did the 10x10 dead lifts feel? I'm thinking of doing that today with 225. Did you also rest for 60s between sets?
    Think I'd pass out lol
    It was fun. Very intense and my forearms where killing me cause I dont use straps. I went 45-60 seconds depending on how slow my partner was going.
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    Alrighty I'll be giving this a try in about 1 hour!

    Horrible. Could only do 5 sets at 225. Don't know how you guys do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thyrod View Post
    Alrighty I'll be giving this a try in about 1 hour!

    Horrible. Could only do 5 sets at 225. Don't know how you guys do it.
    Well for me it is hard work determination and test/winny.
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    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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    Also I have 30 pounds on you.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
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    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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