15 week precontest cycle advice

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  1. Well, all the top 3 pros at the olyimpa last year can't be wrong but....

    Op, I'll answer any and all question and try to help you out as much as I know how.

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    Well, all the top 3 pros at the olyimpa last year can't be wrong but....

    Op, I'll answer any and all question and try to help you out as much as I know how.

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    I'm well aware the it's the norm for the pros. I just don't recommend it due to a personal experience when a friend of mine tried to commit suicide from extreme depression caused by low test. I know a few guys that compete who run trt doses that come up on stage dry and hard.
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  3. Ok man

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  4. Listen guys, no reason for any more argument over dropping or not dropping test. I will be dropping my test 2 weeks out. I understand the side effects of this, as well as the side effects of the other steroids I will be using. Maybe you don't know due to lack of experience, but tren isn't exactly a drug that makes you happy and want to play in a field of flowers all day. **** makes you big and strong, but it also makes you aggressive, on edge, slightly depressed, poor sleep, crazy dreams, etc.... I feel that the only way to combat the negative side effects of any steroid, is to know the negative effects and prepare yourself for them. If I went into a cycle with anything over 500 tren and 700 test without knowing that there would be side effects, I would surely end up all out of wack, crazy, or severely depressed.

    For me, I'm going to get some cialis, a fine ass b1tch to bang those two weeks, and a nice big mirror so I can see how far I've come. I'm pretty sure that with those things alone, I would be fine. I also have other things in my life that will keep me from becoming depressed. As I am still in school and will be until im about 26, I am an active member of a fraternity and live with a few of my brothers who know I use and know what to look for as far as aggressive and depressive symptoms go. I am much too in love with my life to ever become severely depressed.

  5. It's good to see you have all your ducks In a row, and know what and where you want to be.

    Keep me/us informed on how things are goin... Good luck

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  6. Tested at 8.51% today at 240lbs.
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  7. Very nice bro! Keep it up. I might have missed it but how many weeks out are you now?
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  8. I'm going to subscribe just for the info. I don't know enough to give any advice.

    Good luck OP. You obv are doing something right.
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  9. looking huge bro. 240lbs
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  10. I'm 12 weeks out today! I talked to a 300lb monster who is a top 10 ranked bodybuilder in the usa today. His advice was to run 1500mg test e until 4 4 weeks out and only to use prop the last 2 weeks. He said test e doesn't suppress lh hormone like other esters of test does. Is this true??

  11. I have been on sus250 and today I was planning to switch to prop, but now im really thinking of switching to test e. Would it take 4 weeks for test e to kick in when switching from sus? Would 4 weeks be far enough out to drop test e to let the ester fully clear and the bloat from the e be gone fully??

  12. ....as far as i know, test is test... only diff is the amount of water held.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    ....as far as i know, test is test... only diff is the amount of water held.
    That is what my thoughts were. Also, I was advised to use eq for vascularity and appetite.

    Anyone know how far out I should drop eq and test e to get rid of all bloat?

  14. 2 weeks. Are you running anything else in that time. I would be on an oral if I were you.
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  15. Here is my overhauled cycle for the next 12 weeks!

    12-9: 1500 test e, 500 tren ace, 500 mast ace, 600eq
    8-4: 1500 test e, 700 tren ace, 700 mast ace, 600eq
    4-3: 500 test prop, 700 tren ace, 700 mast ace
    2-show: 1000 tren ace, 1000 mast ace

    Orals:
    12-7: 50var
    6-4: 100var
    4-show: 100var, 45halo
    For an AI, Armi will be run until 2 weeks out, then I will switch to letro.

    Not yet decided:
    Winstrol the last 4-6 weeks. have not yet decided 100% for sure on oral or inject. opinions?

  16. As for eq me, I would run it at 1g... That's where I like it at. You could up it if you like, as for droppin it out when?... That I don't know, can't help on that one

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  17. Maybe ill do higher eq then

  18. Damn bro thats a cycle. Serious gear.

    I would do pill bc its just as effective and you dont have to put up with serious PIP each day.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    Damn bro thats a cycle. Serious gear.I would do pill bc its just as effective and you dont have to put up with serious PIP each day.
    I'm currently pinning the following weekly:5cc testE(300mg/ml)2cc eq(400mg/ml)5cc tren(100mg/ml)5cc mast(100mg/ml)-as soon as it gets here17cc total = pinning everydayWhen i up my tren/mast to 700mg/week i will have to pin 3cc a day. Pinning is not a problem for me. I just hear a lot about injectable winstrol causing infection/lumps because of its water base. That is something I want to avoid.Weekly I inject the following amount into each bodypart without repeating any sites.Shoulders: 2.5cc each- 5ccTriceps: 1cc each- 2ccBiceps:1cc each- 2ccGlutes: 3cc each- 6ccQuads: 3cc each- 6ccTotal: 21ccI can however repeat shoulders, triceps, and biceps every other day if I use 1/2" 29g slin pins and only inject:Shoulders-1cc each, 3 time a week- 6 ccBiceps- .5cc each, 3 times a week- 3 ccTriceps- .5cc each, 3 times a week- 3ccI can also repeat quads and glutes twice a week:Quads- 2cc each, twice a week- 8ccGutes- 3cc each, twice a week- 12ccMax total with repeat sites per week- 32cc

  20. Weight is down in the 236-238 range depending on hydration and previous meal timing. My lean mass, according to my last bodyfat test, is 220. I doubt I am losing muscle with the cycle I am on. So I am hoping that I've lost a couple pounds of pure fat this week and my bodyfat is down under 8%. What do you guys think?
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