15 week precontest cycle advice

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  1. Ok you your a heavy user.... I think the cyccle u posted would be good, but with the changes I made in start stop times

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Ok you your a heavy user.... I think the cyccle u posted would be good, but with the changes I made in start stop times

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    I talked to my boy tonight. He said with the gear I have on hand now I should be fine. He told me to do this:

    -Run 1500sus, 600tren until 7 weeks out.
    -At 7 weeks out switch to 700/700/700 prop/tren/mast.
    -At 6 weeks out add anavar at 100/day and injectable winstrol at 50/day.
    -At 4 weeks out add halo at 45/day
    -At 20 days out drop prop. Increase injectable winstrol to 100/day. Add 2.5mg letro/day.
    -At 10 days out split injecting size and increase injection sites to prevent lumping.(MAX: 1/2cc per shoulder, bicep, tricep. 1cc per glute/thigh.)
    -Run Clen 14,12,10,8,6,4,2,1 Weeks out

    Also was told about carb loading and water dropping.
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  3. Good advice for a contest imo
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  4. Quote Originally Posted by bw31
    To give you an idea, I can bench press over 500lbs, squat and deadlift over 700, and clean and press over 400. Yes, all raw. Competing at 220/242 for powerlifting and 231 for strongman.
    I had to stop here and say
    Holy****
    That is a massive clean let alone press

  5. Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    Good advice for a contest imo
    I hope so!

    Quote Originally Posted by j05441 View Post
    I had to stop here and say
    Holy****
    That is a massive clean let alone press
    My best clean and press in a competition was 335 or 345 on a 2" thick axle in a strongman comp a year or so ago. My best 2" axle clean and press is 372. My best push press out of a rack is 405x2. Shoulders have always been a very strong point, but my shoulders are not well developed, as they are large front delts and tricep wise, but small in the side/rear.

    To improve my overall delt size I am doing shoulders on their own for about an hour a week. Including:
    Seated smith military: 6sets of 10.
    BTN Smith military: 6sets of 20
    Seated Dumbbell press: 6 sets of 10.
    Side, rear, and front dumbbell raises: 4sets of 15 per movement.
    Side and rear cable raises: 6sets of 15
    Machine shoulder press: 1 very long dropset
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bw31

    I talked to my boy tonight. He said with the gear I have on hand now I should be fine. He told me to do this:

    -Run 1500sus, 600tren until 7 weeks out.
    -At 7 weeks out switch to 700/700/700 prop/tren/mast.
    -At 6 weeks out add anavar at 100/day and injectable winstrol at 50/day.
    -At 4 weeks out add halo at 45/day
    -At 20 days out drop prop. Increase injectable winstrol to 100/day. Add 2.5mg letro/day.
    -At 10 days out split injecting size and increase injection sites to prevent lumping.(MAX: 1/2cc per shoulder, bicep, tricep. 1cc per glute/thigh.)
    -Run Clen 14,12,10,8,6,4,2,1 Weeks out

    Also was told about carb loading and water dropping.
    That's a great break down... Close to what I said other then adding in the extras.

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    That's a great break down... Close to what I said other then adding in the extras.

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    Awesome! I was told that when it comes to contest prep, keeping my injectables constant(2100mg) throughout is more important than the dose of the test. Does that sound correct?

  8. Ask him his reasoning. I can't think of any reason he said that- but I don't know it all.

    So your switching from powerlifting to bodybuilding am I correct?
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  9. Really only reason I can see is keepin blood levels even to keep acne down... Other then that I don't understand his statement about keepin it even

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    Ask him his reasoning. I can't think of any reason he said that- but I don't know it all.

    So your switching from powerlifting to bodybuilding am I correct?
    Ill see what he says. I have been powerlifting for 7 years and doing strongman for 5. I've won multiple national titles in both.

    Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Really only reason I can see is keepin blood levels even to keep acne down... Other then that I don't understand his statement about keepin it even
    Ill ask him.

  11. Hey guys. I have been told that masteron needs to be run for 12 weeks minimum. Is there any validity to that?

  12. No... Mast is a androgen and a cutting agent, if it's mast prop it's just like any other prop ester. It will take 1-2 wks to fully kick in and will be doin it's thing shortly there after.

    Besides, with the doses your gonna run of 1g... It will work quick and fast.

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  13. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    No... Mast is a androgen and a cutting agent, if it's mast prop it's just like any other prop ester. It will take 1-2 wks to fully kick in and will be doin it's thing shortly there after.

    Besides, with the doses your gonna run of 1g... It will work quick and fast.

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    my boy just got me all new gear for my cycle, since I was running ugl stuff until now. Here's what I was told to do:


    Week 12: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 11: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 10: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 9: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 8: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 7: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 6: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop
    Week 5: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop
    Week 4: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop, 350winstrol
    Week 3: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop, 350 winstrol
    Week 2: 1000tren, 1000mast, 700winstrol
    Week 1: 1000tren, 1000mast, 700winstrol

    Orals will be:
    6-1:100var
    4-1: 30-45halo

  14. lol... looks like what would have done, but at lower doses.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Why not keep tren/mast in though the show?

    Prop should be cut at least 2wks before but 3wks would be better

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    I keep Test P in the mix at 200 per wk. But it depends on how it bloats you.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer

    I keep Test P in the mix at 200 per wk. But it depends on how it bloats you.
    I agree with this. At a low TRT dose with a decent AI you shouldn't have any bloat.

  17. If the goal when on stage is to be a lean and dry as possable, ANYTHING that will cause water retention has to go.

    OP do as your boy (who competes) and I said, cut the test.

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  18. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    If the goal when on stage is to be a lean and dry as possable, ANYTHING that will cause water retention has to go.

    OP do as your boy (who competes) and I said, cut the test.

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    So your saying that natural bodybuilders can't get that dry hard look because they have testosterone in their system? If you prep yourself properly prior to the show re dropping water etc and run a TRT dose with a decent aromataze inhibitor you won't have any bloat.

  19. Look I'm not here to have a pissing match with you. You have your way you would do it and I know how smart pros do it. I'm not the only one tellin this guy to drop the test, his buddy that competes in the NPC said to do the same.

    I'm giving my though on it and you give your, the OP can make it own mind on which way to do it.

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  20. I actually just talked to a guy competing in USAs this year. Currently around 300lbs and pretty lean. He uses test e up until 4 weeks out, then uses prop for 2 weeks, and drops all test 2 weeks out. Sticking with that idea.

  21. ^^^ either way.... ALL TEST IS DROPPED 2WKS OUT! Do it. Caps not pointed at the OP.

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  22. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    Look I'm not here to have a pissing match with you. You have your way you would do it and I know how smart pros do it. I'm not the only one tellin this guy to drop the test, his buddy that competes in the NPC said to do the same.

    I'm giving my though on it and you give your, the OP can make it own mind on which way to do it.

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    And I'm giving him my thoughts. If he were to drop the prop 3 weeks out he will have to bear the brunt of the side effects of having ZERO test in his system. Side effects including but not limited to lethargy, depression, lack of self esteem, unable to get a boner or even aroused for that matter. Simply put feeling absolutely miserable for weeks prior to comp. A TRT dose won't cause **** all bloat without an AI let alone with letro etc.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bw31
    I actually just talked to a guy competing in USAs this year. Currently around 300lbs and pretty lean. He uses test e up until 4 weeks out, then uses prop for 2 weeks, and drops all test 2 weeks out. Sticking with that idea.
    Lukef... These are the OPs words.

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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    And I'm giving him my thoughts. If he were to drop the prop 3 weeks out he will have to bear the brunt of the side effects of having ZERO test in his system. Side effects including but not limited to lethargy, depression, lack of self esteem, unable to get a boner or even aroused for that matter. Simply put feeling absolutely miserable for weeks prior to comp. A TRT dose won't cause **** all bloat without an AI let alone with letro etc.
    lol ya bro, dudes runnin competition cycles drop all the test completely and go through all that cause they dont get any drier at all...
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