15 week precontest cycle advice

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bw31

    I talked to my boy tonight. He said with the gear I have on hand now I should be fine. He told me to do this:

    -Run 1500sus, 600tren until 7 weeks out.
    -At 7 weeks out switch to 700/700/700 prop/tren/mast.
    -At 6 weeks out add anavar at 100/day and injectable winstrol at 50/day.
    -At 4 weeks out add halo at 45/day
    -At 20 days out drop prop. Increase injectable winstrol to 100/day. Add 2.5mg letro/day.
    -At 10 days out split injecting size and increase injection sites to prevent lumping.(MAX: 1/2cc per shoulder, bicep, tricep. 1cc per glute/thigh.)
    -Run Clen 14,12,10,8,6,4,2,1 Weeks out

    Also was told about carb loading and water dropping.
    That's a great break down... Close to what I said other then adding in the extras.

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    That's a great break down... Close to what I said other then adding in the extras.

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    Awesome! I was told that when it comes to contest prep, keeping my injectables constant(2100mg) throughout is more important than the dose of the test. Does that sound correct?

  3. Ask him his reasoning. I can't think of any reason he said that- but I don't know it all.

    So your switching from powerlifting to bodybuilding am I correct?
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  4. Really only reason I can see is keepin blood levels even to keep acne down... Other then that I don't understand his statement about keepin it even

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    Ask him his reasoning. I can't think of any reason he said that- but I don't know it all.

    So your switching from powerlifting to bodybuilding am I correct?
    Ill see what he says. I have been powerlifting for 7 years and doing strongman for 5. I've won multiple national titles in both.

    Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Really only reason I can see is keepin blood levels even to keep acne down... Other then that I don't understand his statement about keepin it even
    Ill ask him.

  6. Hey guys. I have been told that masteron needs to be run for 12 weeks minimum. Is there any validity to that?

  7. No... Mast is a androgen and a cutting agent, if it's mast prop it's just like any other prop ester. It will take 1-2 wks to fully kick in and will be doin it's thing shortly there after.

    Besides, with the doses your gonna run of 1g... It will work quick and fast.

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    No... Mast is a androgen and a cutting agent, if it's mast prop it's just like any other prop ester. It will take 1-2 wks to fully kick in and will be doin it's thing shortly there after.

    Besides, with the doses your gonna run of 1g... It will work quick and fast.

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    my boy just got me all new gear for my cycle, since I was running ugl stuff until now. Here's what I was told to do:


    Week 12: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 11: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 10: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 9: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 8: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 7: 1000tren, 500mast, 500prop
    Week 6: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop
    Week 5: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop
    Week 4: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop, 350winstrol
    Week 3: 1000tren, 700mast, 300prop, 350 winstrol
    Week 2: 1000tren, 1000mast, 700winstrol
    Week 1: 1000tren, 1000mast, 700winstrol

    Orals will be:
    6-1:100var
    4-1: 30-45halo

  9. lol... looks like what would have done, but at lower doses.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Why not keep tren/mast in though the show?

    Prop should be cut at least 2wks before but 3wks would be better

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    I keep Test P in the mix at 200 per wk. But it depends on how it bloats you.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer

    I keep Test P in the mix at 200 per wk. But it depends on how it bloats you.
    I agree with this. At a low TRT dose with a decent AI you shouldn't have any bloat.

  12. If the goal when on stage is to be a lean and dry as possable, ANYTHING that will cause water retention has to go.

    OP do as your boy (who competes) and I said, cut the test.

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  13. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    If the goal when on stage is to be a lean and dry as possable, ANYTHING that will cause water retention has to go.

    OP do as your boy (who competes) and I said, cut the test.

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    So your saying that natural bodybuilders can't get that dry hard look because they have testosterone in their system? If you prep yourself properly prior to the show re dropping water etc and run a TRT dose with a decent aromataze inhibitor you won't have any bloat.

  14. Look I'm not here to have a pissing match with you. You have your way you would do it and I know how smart pros do it. I'm not the only one tellin this guy to drop the test, his buddy that competes in the NPC said to do the same.

    I'm giving my though on it and you give your, the OP can make it own mind on which way to do it.

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  15. I actually just talked to a guy competing in USAs this year. Currently around 300lbs and pretty lean. He uses test e up until 4 weeks out, then uses prop for 2 weeks, and drops all test 2 weeks out. Sticking with that idea.

  16. ^^^ either way.... ALL TEST IS DROPPED 2WKS OUT! Do it. Caps not pointed at the OP.

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    Look I'm not here to have a pissing match with you. You have your way you would do it and I know how smart pros do it. I'm not the only one tellin this guy to drop the test, his buddy that competes in the NPC said to do the same.

    I'm giving my though on it and you give your, the OP can make it own mind on which way to do it.

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    And I'm giving him my thoughts. If he were to drop the prop 3 weeks out he will have to bear the brunt of the side effects of having ZERO test in his system. Side effects including but not limited to lethargy, depression, lack of self esteem, unable to get a boner or even aroused for that matter. Simply put feeling absolutely miserable for weeks prior to comp. A TRT dose won't cause **** all bloat without an AI let alone with letro etc.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bw31
    I actually just talked to a guy competing in USAs this year. Currently around 300lbs and pretty lean. He uses test e up until 4 weeks out, then uses prop for 2 weeks, and drops all test 2 weeks out. Sticking with that idea.
    Lukef... These are the OPs words.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    And I'm giving him my thoughts. If he were to drop the prop 3 weeks out he will have to bear the brunt of the side effects of having ZERO test in his system. Side effects including but not limited to lethargy, depression, lack of self esteem, unable to get a boner or even aroused for that matter. Simply put feeling absolutely miserable for weeks prior to comp. A TRT dose won't cause **** all bloat without an AI let alone with letro etc.
    lol ya bro, dudes runnin competition cycles drop all the test completely and go through all that cause they dont get any drier at all...

  20. Well, all the top 3 pros at the olyimpa last year can't be wrong but....

    Op, I'll answer any and all question and try to help you out as much as I know how.

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  21. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle
    Well, all the top 3 pros at the olyimpa last year can't be wrong but....

    Op, I'll answer any and all question and try to help you out as much as I know how.

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    I'm well aware the it's the norm for the pros. I just don't recommend it due to a personal experience when a friend of mine tried to commit suicide from extreme depression caused by low test. I know a few guys that compete who run trt doses that come up on stage dry and hard.

  22. Ok man

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  23. Listen guys, no reason for any more argument over dropping or not dropping test. I will be dropping my test 2 weeks out. I understand the side effects of this, as well as the side effects of the other steroids I will be using. Maybe you don't know due to lack of experience, but tren isn't exactly a drug that makes you happy and want to play in a field of flowers all day. **** makes you big and strong, but it also makes you aggressive, on edge, slightly depressed, poor sleep, crazy dreams, etc.... I feel that the only way to combat the negative side effects of any steroid, is to know the negative effects and prepare yourself for them. If I went into a cycle with anything over 500 tren and 700 test without knowing that there would be side effects, I would surely end up all out of wack, crazy, or severely depressed.

    For me, I'm going to get some cialis, a fine ass b1tch to bang those two weeks, and a nice big mirror so I can see how far I've come. I'm pretty sure that with those things alone, I would be fine. I also have other things in my life that will keep me from becoming depressed. As I am still in school and will be until im about 26, I am an active member of a fraternity and live with a few of my brothers who know I use and know what to look for as far as aggressive and depressive symptoms go. I am much too in love with my life to ever become severely depressed.

  24. It's good to see you have all your ducks In a row, and know what and where you want to be.

    Keep me/us informed on how things are goin... Good luck

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  25. Tested at 8.51% today at 240lbs.
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  26. Very nice bro! Keep it up. I might have missed it but how many weeks out are you now?
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  27. I'm going to subscribe just for the info. I don't know enough to give any advice.

    Good luck OP. You obv are doing something right.
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  28. looking huge bro. 240lbs
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  29. I'm 12 weeks out today! I talked to a 300lb monster who is a top 10 ranked bodybuilder in the usa today. His advice was to run 1500mg test e until 4 4 weeks out and only to use prop the last 2 weeks. He said test e doesn't suppress lh hormone like other esters of test does. Is this true??
  

  
 

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