smash competition prep: Mast/Test/Tbol

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  1. What's with time signature?


  2. Time sig... That for me?

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Time sig... That for me?

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    No every post I make says a different time than what I am actually posting it at. Like an 8 hour time difference.

  4. You must had it set to a wrong time like central when your in pacific or somethin like that

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  5. In theory you could use masteron prop TROUGH te comp. it's pure DHT absolutely no water retention
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html
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  6. Mast prop, tren ace, primo ace(real primo), halo... All can be run through shows.

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  7. Merry Christmas everyone! Now back to the grindstone. Will get back to this tonight.

  8. It's late but marry Christmas guys...

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  9. Sorry for the lack of updates, been super busy and without a phone or computer. Still training and dieting. Will have more updates soon

  10. Quote Originally Posted by usealittle View Post
    Mast prop, tren ace, primo ace(real primo), halo... All can be run through shows.

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    I trained for a not so serious show and ran prop/tren/mast/ winny tail end up untill the show. And then took some Lasiks (diuretic) staring with a small dose overnight to start. I don't think dropping test is entirely effective as it technically should be. With 350 mg of prop I cut it out like 3 days before, running tren was about 525mg and mast was about 525 as well w winny 50mg Ed then 100 for the last week I was the dryest one up there. Anyone have insight?

  11. I agree with all of this besides the slin. That **** is dangerous. Also unless you are planning on going pro it really is not required. At his stats slin should be the least of his worries.


    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    I'm competing in 2014 I'm 6'0 235lbs.

    First thing you need to do is add mass. Drop the masteron replace with something like NPP and dianabol.


    Secondly eat- like a horse my coach eats 3-4lba of red meat a day, 12 eggs oats, quinoa, avacado, olive oil and whey.


    Finally change your routine IMO.

    Switch from a full body workout to really focusing on specific muscle groups- and blast the **** out of them.

    And get some HGH and insulin.

    ^if your serious about competeing . If you just wanna casually do it HGH and insulin is not needed.


    FYI BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SLIN IT CAN KILL YOU
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  12. This is just a couple progress pics, my back after a pull and shrug workout.

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  13. Day: 54

    Weight: 177

    First of all I want to apologize, the last month was super hectic and I did a poor job logging this. Overall I'm a little disappointed in my progress, but at least I found a couple of competetions that I'm thinking of signing, and some progress is better than no progress.

    So far during this cycle I didn't put on a lot of weight - really my weight stayed about the same. What did happen and I'm pretty happy with is my muscles got super dense and hard, my bf dropped to where I can see striation everywhere(like I can see three heads in my delts now) and I'm crazy vascular everywhere, I've never had veins popping in my delts, abs or legs, and where there were veins popping there's more and they're huge. I was seriously considering competing march 16th, but decided I wanted more time and to see a competition first so I know what to expect.

    I ended up working the test and mast up to 250mg/week and taking 60mg Tbol/day. Acnes only acting up a little bit, other than that libido, strength, energy and endurance have all been great.

    So I considered competing at novice middleweight, being that I'm around the weight limit, and perhaps 5'9 figure, but now I'm leaning towards bulking and compete as a light heavy weight in May.

  14. The competition I'm thinking about is about 13 weeks away, and this is kind of where I was thinking of taking the cycle:

    1-10 test 250mg /week
    1-10 eq 300mg/week
    1-5 Dbol 20mg/day
    1-5 Drol 30mg/day
    6-13 var 80mg/day
    8-13 mast 300mg/week
    8-13 clen 20/40/40/60/60/60-80

    I will be using exem 25mg and Clomid 50mg throughout and have a couple of weeks of 11 spray to be used just before competition. As well as ghrp,cjc,igf & mgf. Will also be mega dosing omega
    3's and cla.
    I am attempting to avoid using Tren. So if you think Winni will be a better option than Anavar......Please Let Me Know. Or perhaps adding Winni the the last couple of weeks? Keep in mind, Acne is of concern.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    The competition I'm thinking about is about 13 weeks away, and this is kind of where I was thinking of taking the cycle:

    1-10 test 250mg /week
    1-10 eq 300mg/week
    1-5 Dbol 20mg/day
    1-5 Drol 30mg/day
    6-13 var 80mg/day
    8-13 mast 300mg/week
    8-13 clen 20/40/40/60/60/60-80

    I will be using exem 25mg and Clomid 50mg throughout and have a couple of weeks of 11 spray to be used just before competition. As well as ghrp,cjc,igf & mgf. Will also be mega dosing omega
    3's and cla.
    I am attempting to avoid using Tren. So if you think Winni will be a better option than Anavar......Please Let Me Know. Or perhaps adding Winni the the last couple of weeks? Keep in mind, Acne is of concern.
    Winny right before the show would give you that hard vascular look you are going for assuming you have your water intake down. I would run low dose of test p trt levels about just for mood and the such, you could drop it if it was causing too much bloat but I doubt it would, knowing that you will be highly monitoring water intake before the show.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  16. Also you are going to want keto for the clen.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    Winny right before the show would give you that hard vascular look you are going for assuming you have your water intake down. I would run low dose of test p trt levels about just for mood and the such, you could drop it if it was causing too much bloat but I doubt it would, knowing that you will be highly monitoring water intake before the show.
    Are you saying drop the var for winni, or add in winni? Or should I play it by ear and see how I'm doing within the last week or two?

    With water intake and retention, intake would be highly monitored and I have some prescription strength diuretics as well. As for adding a trt dose of test I'm currently using a blend of sustanon and test 400 which both have some of those super long estered tests in it - the test should still be present but nearly gone by the competition.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Are you saying drop the var for winni, or add in winni? Or should I play it by ear and see how I'm doing within the last week or two?

    With water intake and retention, intake would be highly monitored and I have some prescription strength diuretics as well. As for adding a trt dose of test I'm currently using a blend of sustanon and test 400 which both have some of those super long estered tests in it - the test should still be present but nearly gone by the competition.
    Var and winny would both be good before show I personally would go with winny, all the people I train with who compete use it before comps. But its completely up to you.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Also you are going to want keto for the clen.
    Are you talking 11keto? Cause 11 spray is 11 keto.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Are you talking 11keto? Cause 11 spray is 11 keto.
    Ketotifen, it is an antihistamine.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    Var and winny would both be good before show I personally would go with winny, all the people I train with who compete use it before comps. But its completely up to you.
    Ya but what I'm asking is to run them concurrently or drop one for the other. I'm ok with using winni for short periods, and if it allows me to avoid tren then perfect. I'm kinda realizing at some point I might need to get on it if I want to progress further.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    Ketotifen, it is an antihistamine.
    Oh for neural up regulation for all the down regulation that's going to occur. Gotcha. Would benedryl work too?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Ya but what I'm asking is to run them concurrently or drop one for the other. I'm ok with using winni for short periods, and if it allows me to avoid tren then perfect. I'm kinda realizing at some point I might need to get on it if I want to progress further.
    I would run winny over var personally not a fan of doubling up orals even though var is pretty mild.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  24. Quote Originally Posted by smash1904 View Post
    Oh for neural up regulation for all the down regulation that's going to occur. Gotcha. Would benedryl work too?
    I have heard mixed reviews of benedryl personally. I ran it while on clen and could not tell you if it helped at all, did help me sleep a bit so that was nice.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  25. upper/lower body days are the way to go. look into PHAT split.

    DROP the entire ghrp/cjc/mgf arsenal, TRUST me. i did a log for couple months, its still up in the peptide section. WASTE of money, drop it on real HGH or more tren.

    as far as cycle, you need tren. mast is good, if u can affoard it blast as much as possible, and as much tren possible. low test (use it only for ur dick) if u dont got money for a lot of mast, low dose it and add eq.

    pretty much if u wanna bodybuild- tren/mast/test/eq ( in that order) + pharma HGH(!)

    as far as ED, when on test + tren, u shouldnt have ED problems. if u do experience problems, proviron or masteron will take care of it.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post

    I would run winny over var personally not a fan of doubling up orals even though var is pretty mild.
    Ya I've never actually had my liver checked or had any bloodwork other than cholesterol checked on cycle. I have a hard enough time telling my doctor I'm not juicing when I ask for a hormone panel with e2 off cycle. I've wondered if I should, like he might be able to help me.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    upper/lower body days are the way to go. look into PHAT split.

    DROP the entire ghrp/cjc/mgf arsenal, TRUST me. i did a log for couple months, its still up in the peptide section. WASTE of money, drop it on real HGH or more tren.

    as far as cycle, you need tren. mast is good, if u can affoard it blast as much as possible, and as much tren possible. low test (use it only for ur dick) if u dont got money for a lot of mast, low dose it and add eq.

    pretty much if u wanna bodybuild- tren/mast/test/eq ( in that order) + pharma HGH(!)

    as far as ED, when on test + tren, u shouldnt have ED problems. if u do experience problems, proviron or masteron will take care of it.
    Phat split looks pretty legit, I actually just switched to a gvt type workout that I'm really liking. 10x10 with 60s rests is intense. I've kinda incorporated high rep low weight exercises to the end of the session as well.

    Like throw the ghrp/cjc/mgf/igf in the trash? I've been getting pretty good results with them off cycle, and the increased hunger is huge for me, especially on cycle. I've bought it all in bulk too, so I'd like to look at your log.

    I know that's kind of been the general consensus on tren, but after I ran deca ED was an ongoing problem - for a long time. I'm still having problems today and I'm running mast test without a 19nor, so yes I'm extremely worried about tren making it worse, almost worried enough to consider not ever making it as a bodybuilder cause I'd like to avoid using it. It sounds amazing but it freaks me out. I've already got tren, and I've been weighing using it awhile now. I sort of feel the decisions a bridge that doesn't need to be crossed yet, I can still progress without it.

    HGH is a little out of my price range right now unfortunately.

  28. I read tren acts as a sprm, and doesn't raise prolactin. That there hasn't been a case of elevated prolactin levels with low estrogen to cause gyno. Apparently what happens is because it acts as a sprm it upregulates ER, causing even normal estrogen levels to be potentially problematic. That tren dick is caused by elevated estrogen AND upregulated ER.

  29. Also winni can be ran in place of test to ward off tren sides and libido issues? Does that mean tren+mast+winni is competition stack?

  30. Day: 57

    Weight: 178

    So I started the Dbol/Drol yesterday at 20/40mg and when I got to the gym I was already over a pound heavier. I'd attribute that to the eq more than the Dbol/Drol because I started that last week and now I'm really hungry.

    Workout was really good, and I got to say my favorite time to hit the gym is on a Friday or Saturday night. No ones there, it's awesome. I'm a little concerned about my over head press, and had a question: should it feel like I'm shrugging to push it up?
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