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  1. And Msten is still Legal "at the moment"..

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta

    Why not kick start with Methylstenbolone M-sten/Ultradrol.. It gives quick gains and supposedly a little milder on the sides than Superdrol...

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    How does that compare to hdrol
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by RippedCity View Post
    How does that compare to hdrol
    It's a lot stronger than hdrol its closer to Superdrol IMO...but u just posted if you had the money you would run Anadrol or Dianabol... So why not go the Methylstenbolone route?? It'll be great for a kickstart ... Quick mass..

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  4. Do a search on M-sten from IML there coming out with a 10mg dose supposedly really pure..

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta
    Do a search on M-sten from IML there coming out with a 10mg dose supposedly really pure..

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    Will do bro

  6. Quote Originally Posted by RippedCity View Post
    Will do bro
    Let me know how it goes.. and good luck.

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  7. I'm with Detroit on this one, kick starts are fine but IMO they only serve the purpose of feeling on ad making gains quicker. I ran a cycle a couple months ago, I did SD to kick start and I also finished off my last 4 weeks with SD. TBH, it was wayyyy more amazing and beneficial at the end. Thinking about it, to kick start you are really only seeing one compound (the kick start) the first 4 weeks, when the test has full kicked in and you run that same compound now you are truly on test and SD for example. My gains were insane having full stable blood levels of both.

    My suggestion, get some test p and kick start that way, establish your stable blood levels of testosterone and then throw in a strong oral. The gains will be very pleasing.
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by technique88 View Post
    I'm with Detroit on this one, kick starts are fine but IMO they only serve the purpose of feeling on ad making gains quicker. I ran a cycle a couple months ago, I did SD to kick start and I also finished off my last 4 weeks with SD. TBH, it was wayyyy more amazing and beneficial at the end. Thinking about it, to kick start you are really only seeing one compound (the kick start) the first 4 weeks, when the test has full kicked in and you run that same compound now you are truly on test and SD for example. My gains were insane having full stable blood levels of both.

    My suggestion, get some test p and kick start that way, establish your stable blood levels of testosterone and then throw in a strong oral. The gains will be very pleasing.
    So then kick start and then end with it.. even better..the best of both worlds..lol

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by technique88
    I'm with Detroit on this one, kick starts are fine but IMO they only serve the purpose of feeling on ad making gains quicker.
    That is exactly the point of a kick start

  10. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta

    So then kick start and then end with it.. even better..the best of both worlds..lol

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    That's what I did lol
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Bigchourico

    That is exactly the point of a kick start
    ::face palm::

    Lol this is true. I guess what I was trying to say that you get better gains from an oral when test is fully flowing opposed to just a kick start.

    To rephrase my advice, if you are looking to feel I quicker, go for the quick start, but if you are going for getting the most out of your oral than wait if you have the patience. Although I agree with Detroit I know myself and do not have the patience
    My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.

  12. Alright bros well I decided.

    Test E 500 mgs week 1-10
    Sten-zine aka DMZ 2.0 2 caps week 1-4
    Aromasin 12.5 Eod 1-16
    Nolva 2 weeks after last shot 40/20/20/10

    Lets get yoked

  13. Quote Originally Posted by RippedCity View Post
    Alright bros well I decided.

    Test E 500 mgs week 1-10
    Sten-zine aka DMZ 2.0 2 caps week 1-4
    Aromasin 12.5 Eod 1-16
    Nolva 2 weeks after last shot 40/20/20/10

    Lets get yoked
    Nice, Here comes the Mass..

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by RippedCity
    Alright bros well I decided.

    Test E 500 mgs week 1-10
    Sten-zine aka DMZ 2.0 2 caps week 1-4
    Aromasin 12.5 Eod 1-16
    Nolva 2 weeks after last shot 40/20/20/10

    Lets get yoked
    Personally i would drop the aromasin while on nolva. Nolva should still prevent gyno but if u run aromasin all the way thru ur gonna have wicked rebound after pct. other than that it looks good.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828 View Post
    Personally i would drop the aromasin while on nolva. Nolva should still prevent gyno but if u run aromasin all the way thru ur gonna have wicked rebound after pct. other than that it looks good.
    One of the bragging rights of Aromasin is the lack of rebound. In fact, Aromasin has been shown to greatly stimulate natural testosterone production by a slight androgenic nature. Not only can it also increase total testosterone production, Aromasin actively does so while increasing natural IGF 1. If all you're concerned about is gyno, then a SERM is ok, but we should all worry about the effects on the prostrate as well, and running Aromasin from day one to the end of PCT should be fine. Personally, I'd never use a SERM, only a good quality AI, like Aromasin.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer

    One of the bragging rights of Aromasin is the lack of rebound. In fact, Aromasin has been shown to greatly stimulate natural testosterone production by a slight androgenic nature. Not only can it also increase total testosterone production, Aromasin actively does so while increasing natural IGF 1. If all you're concerned about is gyno, then a SERM is ok, but we should all worry about the effects on the prostrate as well, and running Aromasin from day one to the end of PCT should be fine. Personally, I'd never use a SERM, only a good quality AI, like Aromasin.
    This is spot on. I don't know what that dude meant with rebound.... obviously he licks his computer monitor. But.. aromasin is a suicide inhibitor (type I) which means it doesn't block estrogen but binds too the aromatase enzyme all together and renders it inactive permanently. Adex is a type II AI and stops estrogen by binding to the aromatase enzyme BUT after use is stopped or blood levels drop is unattaches and the enzyme is rendered active again. This is rebound.

    Aromasin is superior to all other AIs and its ability to increase testosterone production and IGF is a winning combo....

    Nolva can cause rebound too
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
  

  
 

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