Seperating broscience bull**** from real facts
10-31-2012 02:10 AM
this comes down to doing your research knowing your body and doing what works for you.sure there is a ton of bro science out but being able to weed through it and find the truth within is key.this comes with experience.
10-31-2012 03:08 AM
11-02-2012 01:54 PM
I agree with the op in the aspect of testosterone is better at higher doses. The AA part... I have always taken with a grain of salt. Just purely because you can't go by numbers. People's bodies react to exogenous hormones differently and what works for me might not work for you. So in that aspect AA is garbage.
Test being run 1.5g+? Yes for the experienced guys. I ran test E at 900mg and feel like another 300mg ew would have been perfect. Should everyone start going past 750mg ew? I don't think so but I will be at 1.5g Ew for my next cycle.
I applaud you OP for bringing this up and it is a very interesting discussion.
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
11-02-2012 01:58 PM
Running with the Big Boys
Why do you feel as though you need that high of a dose of E? IMO, people are way too quick to start bumping up to doses to over 1g/week without needing it. If you can't see progress at 500-750mg/week of E, then you're lacking somewhere else.
Originally Posted by DangerDave
11-06-2012 03:48 AM
Test is garbage..And is very weak in terms of steroids.. Why do u think people r shifting towards low dose test with high dose anabolics .. Let the orals and other injects run the magic.. High test just equals sides. Orals create a huge surge of igf.. Which is why they r so effective to grow and lean out .. Test over 1g is useless unless on gh.. 8-10iu gh for 1000mg test .. 15-20iu for 2000mg of test.. Besides
250mg test with 700mg weekly tren ace will alwYs have better gains then
2000mg test only.. Your using half the total mg weekly which means sides would also be less.. Test is a base.. High Test is not utilized unless hgh is in the picture.. A:a ratios don't tell the whole pic.. Has something like dbol creates a huge igf spike which causing gains.. Orals will always blow the doors off injects unless you r using something like tren base.. Test suspension, bold no ester.. Which does the same as orals . Causing a huge spike of hormones flooding the blood at one time
Test at 250-350mg weekly as a bases for your orals.. Injects(primo ace, tren ace, bold, npp)
Also adding gh will mitigate your sides on all these injectables your having issues with
I could go into more detail on what each oral does additionally which creates better gains.. Then injects for u.. As most injects r inhertly weak.. Unless very fast acting like I stated.. I just don't feel like it..
Also i wanna touch on the synergy of steroids together..
I read a medical study that compared high dose test to.. Moderate dose test and deca at the same total mg.. Gues which was better.. Same for most steroids.. Do your 1000mg of test cycle.. Now do 450mg test with 75 mg anavar daily.. Same total mg. Total mg is the same it's the synergy.. This will always be.. Less total mg of each steroid individually equals better gains always as well as less sides.
11-06-2012 03:58 AM
11-06-2012 05:41 AM
Here bro.. Here's a medical study showing whAt I said.. Same website I got the thing about moderate dose deca/test being equal to high dose test only .. Study showing 100mg a week test plus anavar giving same if not better gains then 600mg a week test only.
11-06-2012 08:48 AM
Running with the Big Boys
That is a poorly written piece of evidence as it's on freaking HIV patients that respond to everything. That article doesn't prove much that we all didn't already know: add in an oral and you'll see increased results. However, there is no data provided regarding health markers, so to only look at body composition changes is overly myopic. It is difficult to extrapolate much information when there isn't anything cited for the 600mg of test claim.
Originally Posted by bigzach1234
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