D-bol or T-bol?
- 07-16-2012, 05:37 AM
D-bol or T-bol?
I'm planning on running a test e cycle and I'm going thru some revisions. I wanted to use d-bol @ 30 mgs/ day for the first 3 weeks to jumpstart the gains, but I started reading up on oral turinabol and that it provides quality gains without aromatization or high hepatoxicity. I know both are c-17 alkylated so there is still going to be some liver toxicity, but d-bol far worse than oral t. has anyone used both and can say which they preferred? How long it took to start seeing gains in strength, size, performance, etc.?
- 07-17-2012, 01:20 AM
depends on how your dosing it each one and how well your body replies to them.get your cycle supports together and then run d bol or t bol.
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- 07-17-2012, 01:26 AM
Do you wnat bloat or not? Also i would run t bol for longer than 3 weeks.
Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
Cyber Monday Deals Here! http://anabolicminds.com/forum/serious-nutrition-solutions/298482-summary-list-sns.html#post5897056 - 07-17-2012, 01:50 AM
Depends on goals and dbol isn't super harsh on your liver....but the main thing is what are your goals strength...massive size? Then dbol...less strength and size but less water and have the muscle be the leaner type of muscle well then tbol at a minimum of 40mg
- 07-18-2012, 02:25 AM
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- 07-18-2012, 03:35 AM
- 07-18-2012, 10:11 PM
- 07-25-2012, 01:54 PM
- 07-25-2012, 02:04 PM
Haha
Christopher
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751 - 07-25-2012, 02:45 PM
Dbol causes increased protein synthesis which is good for adding LBM, but it does cause some bloat (worse in some people than others). The advantage is that dbol causes significant increases in strength.
J. Clark Baird, Esq.
"Form over substance" - 07-26-2012, 02:40 AM
Originally Posted by SteroidLawyer
Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html - 07-26-2012, 02:41 AM
And the water brought on by dianabol helps growth
Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html - 07-27-2012, 09:28 AM
I was told to do dbol only before workouts, to pump the aggression, and rely on injectables for mass gains. Does that that sense, generally speaking ?
- 07-27-2012, 10:46 AM
Originally Posted by interview11
- 07-27-2012, 11:13 AM
- 07-28-2012, 02:40 AM
- 07-31-2012, 07:43 PM
if youre worried about maintaining blood levels, take the dbol 4X a day at 10MG doses over the 16 or so hours that youre up and about, most people have it with breakfast, lunch, pre-workout, and then with their last meal before bed. 40mg ED for 4 weeks would be a fantastic kickstart to a 10-12 week Test E cycle, as the test e would only really start kicking in around week 3.
- 08-01-2012, 02:16 PM
T-bol for jumpstarting a cycle is a mistake, stick to Dbol, dont run it longer than 4 weeks and ur liver should be fine
- 08-01-2012, 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by DirtyPlymouth
- 08-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Originally Posted by howwedo107
You said that you liked Tbol because it doesnt aromatize, but ur running test anyways so aromatization doesnt seem to be something ur whole heartedly avoiding. Plus letro or aromasin can fix any estro-related problems
Dbol is the time tested and proven ignitor for any cycle. Not dissing Tbol, but if I were to use it, I would do it near the end of the cutting cycle. Its use as a kick starter is doomed to be a dissapointment - 08-02-2012, 08:13 PM
+1; Tbol is a great lean gains oral but needs to be taken for longer 4 weeks for it to truly be effective, and its seen more as a support chem than a standalone, kickstart, or finisher, and if you got liver support it works great with anavar and a test base.....letro is pretty full on for an AI and id only really recommend it for gyno reversal treatment, arimidex is a far better option as a preventative imo
- 08-02-2012, 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by DirtyPlymouth
- 08-03-2012, 11:30 AM
So, guys, and Dirty, I don't know if you have a view on this but would you say that Masteron could also be used for the latter part of the cycle rather than tbol?
Context: Week 6 of a cycle, and now:
dbol 30 mg, work out days
masteron, 100 mg twice/week
Deca QV, 450 mg twice/week
Cyp 400 mg twice/week
Gains are so far very good, every appetite that God gave me has gone through the roof. - 08-03-2012, 12:00 PM
- 08-03-2012, 07:35 PM
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