Test C and Tren E need advise!

[rage4cage]

Sup guys im new on here but im 30yrs old and been lifting for years. Have done several past cycles but its been awhile. Im about to start a new one and looking to stack test c and tren e. After reading ALOT on tren e people have good and bad things to say. I was looking at starting off with like 400mg test and 200mg tren a week. Then maybe pump the tren to 400mg if the side effects stay low. What yal think?

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Test i'd have at 500, and starting with a low dose of tren is fine but with Enanthate if sides occur you'll have to deal with them for a couple weeks cuz of the long ester, so Tren ace would b preferred if its your first time using tren.

[Malcolm]

I agree on the 500mg test. But I won't go with tren ace. It's a much shorter ester and injections will have to be done more frequently. If you have sides it could be from either. If I was doing tren and test. I will go for enanthate on both. Injections are done at the same time( no in between tren injections) and pct would be easier to calculate. But I do hear what you are saying about the sides. And if it does occur you will have them for a good 4 weeks or so.

[brundel]

100% go with tren Ace.
I have run both and the long estered version builds up way higher in your system and has alot more sides even at the same dose.
If your gonna run gear your gonna have to deal with the fact that your gonna do injections.
Which side do you want....a few more pin pricks or
extremely elevated BP
headaches
hard to breathe...hard to get through workouts.
night sweats
NO SLEEPING EVER......fuk its brutal with tren e

If you have not ever used tren using enanth version is a terrible idea.
You may have issues with the ace version but if you do you can pull the plug on it and they will subside within a week or so....if your using enanth it may get worse before better and take several weeks to get better.

[Dr.Stri8ed]

100% go with tren Ace.
I have run both and the long estered version builds up way higher in your system and has alot more sides even at the same dose.
If your gonna run gear your gonna have to deal with the fact that your gonna do injections.
Which side do you want....a few more pin pricks or
extremely elevated BP
headaches
hard to breathe...hard to get through workouts.
night sweats
NO SLEEPING EVER......fuk its brutal with tren e

If you have not ever used tren using enanth version is a terrible idea.
You may have issues with the ace version but if you do you can pull the plug on it and they will subside within a week or so....if your using enanth it may get worse before better and take several weeks to get better.

Amen bro.

[rage4cage]

100% go with tren Ace.
I have run both and the long estered version builds up way higher in your system and has alot more sides even at the same dose.
If your gonna run gear your gonna have to deal with the fact that your gonna do injections.
Which side do you want....a few more pin pricks or
extremely elevated BP
headaches
hard to breathe...hard to get through workouts.
night sweats
NO SLEEPING EVER......fuk its brutal with tren e

If you have not ever used tren using enanth version is a terrible idea.
You may have issues with the ace version but if you do you can pull the plug on it and they will subside within a week or so....if your using enanth it may get worse before better and take several weeks to get better.

Thanks guys thats what i needed to hear and actually the type tren was not specified. I want have it for another week or so. Im checking on it now to see if its tren a or e. Im new to tren and didnt know there was a difference!

Also at what mg a week were you seeing all these bad side effects??

[rage4cage]

Well just found out its tren e! Damn! I may just run it at a really small amount.

[brundel]

Honestly, if you have never run tren I would just leave it out.
Even at 200mg a week you could have issues.
Back in the day guys would run the tren hex at 150mg weekly and still have sides.

I feel great at 400mg tren ace. No sides.
200mg enanth I feel like Im going to literally die. Every side x10.

[rage4cage]

Damn!! Well i already have it (or getting it) so we will see. I havent been prone to side eff in the past just a little gyno.

And if i leave it out i dont have anything else to run with it at the moment, think i'll be ok just running the 500mg of test c, trainning hard, eating right and all the right PCT's?

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Damn!! Well i already have it (or getting it) so we will see. I havent been prone to side eff in the past just a little gyno.

Just run it low, and definitely have caber on hand.

[brundel]

Yah make sure to run an AI for the test and since youll be running tren E youll likely want something for Prolactin.
Black Lion Research makes a prolactin supp called Prolactrone. I talked to some of the guys who tested this product. GOod stuff.
Check out their website or FB page for where to buy It.

[rage4cage]

Yah make sure to run an AI for the test and since youll be running tren E youll likely want something for Prolactin.
Black Lion Research makes a prolactin supp called Prolactrone. I talked to some of the guys who tested this product. GOod stuff.
Check out their website or FB page for where to buy It.

Cool man thanks for the info!

[rage4cage]

Hey another question, can I draw the test and tren in the same syringe and just pin once? I don't see why it would hurt just thought I would ask?

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Hey another question, can I draw the test and tren in the same syringe and just pin once? I don't see why it would hurt just thought I would ask?

That's perfectly fine.

[brundel]

You sure can.
Here are some tips.
Buy your syringes with 3ml barrel and 20g 1 in needles attached. Then also buy 25 g 1 inch needle only.
This way you can draw from your vials using a larger needle then switch to a new sharp smaller guage for injections.
For you 3ml barrel is fine.

[brundel]

Eventually youll need to upgrade to the 6ml barrels

[brundel]

Or you may need mixed caliber hardware for site injecting.

[rage4cage]

You sure can.
Here are some tips.
Buy your syringes with 3ml barrel and 20g 1 in needles attached. Then also buy 25 g 1 inch needle only.
This way you can draw from your vials using a larger needle then switch to a new sharp smaller guage for injections.
For you 3ml barrel is fine.

Well my gf is a nurse and got me a ass load of 18g, 1in, 3ml barrel syringes so thats what ill use for now! Thanks again for the info guys!!

[morry]

If it is Tren Ace and all you have is 18g?? You are going to be a pin cushion .... Really. Plus you are more more likely to pin way too fast for comfort.

18g will tear up a vial in 5 weeks or so maybe more depending on frequency of injections. Get 21 or and 25 as described. Sh1t if it is less than 2cc a day, I'll backfill slins 29 or 30 gauge and those are painless and using 2 day is pretty painless as well. Quads or calves for me on the slins, the regular I stick with the quads. When I backfill a slin I do enough for a couple of weeks so when I'm done I can pin pretty quick and be done in a minute or two.

Go buy some or order some online and save yourself some serious bad injection sites both in bruising and pain.

[brundel]

Get yourself some 25g bro.
18g is like a harpoon.
Itll leave HUGE holes in your injection site.