well, i started my first cycle 6 weeks ago, started with test cyp, at week 5 switched to test e. The first pin of test e, the pip started roughly 24 hours after, and got drastically worse till about 72 hours after, and then started to subside, and was gone after 9 days. I did 2 other pins and had the same effect though this time for not as long, roughly 6 days though still. I could not bend my knee whatsover, during any of this pip. Did not have any pip with the test cyp(or at least not where i couldn't work legs afterwards). started back with the last few pins i have of test cyp for now. I inject on the outside of the quad by dividing my leg in half longways and sideways, in the upper quadrant, but not too far down. I watched a few videos and this is where they said to do it. any advice would be appreciated. The gears strength is great, so i would be really disappointed if i had to waste it. i'm hoping maybe even a different injection technique might work better. Currently i stick a 22g 1.5 inch about halfway into the muscle, check to make sure i dont register blood, and then shoot. hopefully i covered enough ground and gave enough info so that i can get some help. Thanks again, and any responses are appreciated