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    30lbs of Muscle Now What!!!


    have a friend who put on about 30lbs of mostly muscle who is looking to push his genetics as far as he can

    he'd done his homework as I made him research for 2 years before even thinking about it.

    here is what he is thinking:

    cycle

    test e,monday250 thrusday 250

    test suspension 50 preworkout maybe 100 if needed

    dbol 40 ed maybe up to 60

    pct :Nolvadex 40ed maybe higher if needed

    supports

    liv52,fish oil



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    Ur friend needs to list his stats, other than that that's a pretty basic cycle
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    And he needs to learn more about a pct. this one is lame
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    Did your friend ever used suspension? Hurts like hell. If he use it for instant power gains better go tren. Pct needs hcg.

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    Why doesn't " your friend" get on this forum?
    Originally Posted by Level9Germ View Post
    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place
    Originally Posted by Son_Of_SEALs View Post
    I dont want titties.... will that product work for a SERM?

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    Originally Posted by demolition
    Why doesn't " your friend" get on this forum?
    Good question!!!! Y nut Guy?

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    Because friends are always scared of noob mistakes. And then it goes ah yeah i know that but my friend.....

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    and yeah... he put on 30lbs of muscle... cuz her knows that. he did a bod pod before and after.... oh wait... he gained 30lbs and now thinks he has +30lbs of muscle. brb - no fat at all!
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    Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
    and yeah... he put on 30lbs of muscle... cuz her knows that. he did a bod pod before and after.... oh wait... he gained 30lbs and now thinks he has +30lbs of muscle. brb - no fat at all!
    Don't all of us here in AM have a bodpod in the garage to test our weekly/daily progress? ;p hehe I liked your comment
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    Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Ur friend needs to list his stats, other than that that's a pretty basic cycle
    he's at about 255,260 at the moment.

    Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    And he needs to learn more about a pct. this one is lame
    what would you add?

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    Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
    and yeah... he put on 30lbs of muscle... cuz her knows that. he did a bod pod before and after.... oh wait... he gained 30lbs and now thinks he has +30lbs of muscle. brb - no fat at all!
    please note the following in the first sentence.he realizes some of the weight he has gained is going to be fat but he can cut that if he decides to.

    Originally Posted by mich29 View Post
    have a friend who put on about 30lbs of mostly muscle who is looking to push his genetics as far as he can

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    Originally Posted by foxpharma View Post
    Did your friend ever used suspension? Hurts like hell. If he use it for instant power gains better go tren. Pct needs hcg.
    please tell me you trying to be funny here

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    Originally Posted by foxpharma View Post
    Did your friend ever used suspension? Hurts like hell. If he use it for instant power gains better go tren. Pct needs hcg.
    I advised him of this.he thinks he will be ok.he is going to use a slin size neddle so I think he might be ok if the stuff he gets is smooth.

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    still need to know his goals,his body fat, height.ect

    but if it were me and i was trying to gain 30lbs. i would add some tren to the cycle.

    for pct i would use clomid 100/50/25/25, erase 1/2/3/3/2/1, DAA 3g, forged pct. this is another simple cycle. you will need some caber incase of tren sides. and i would get some dex for on cycle.
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    You sure know a lot about "your friend" lol so he won't get on a forum because he is a noob and you just happen to know everything about the guy lol suspicious.
    Originally Posted by Level9Germ View Post
    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place
    Originally Posted by Son_Of_SEALs View Post
    I dont want titties.... will that product work for a SERM?

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    Is your friend a homo?

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    Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    still need to know his goals,his body fat, height.ect

    but if it were me and i was trying to gain 30lbs. i would add some tren to the cycle.

    for pct i would use clomid 100/50/25/25, erase 1/2/3/3/2/1, DAA 3g, forged pct. this is another simple cycle. you will need some caber incase of tren sides. and i would get some dex for on cycle.
    his goal is to gain 5 to 10lbs..he's done a great job so far pushing his body naturally putting on about 30lbs alot of it solid muscle with some fat here and there. at this point after putting on 30lbs he has switched up his workouts,eating,sleeping etc and is making progress at about 1 to 2lbs a month but after 30lbs .I would say he has earned the right to try his first cycle. stats are 6'1 he's around 255 260 at about 13% bodyfat.

    I figured it would be easier to post this here as he will ask me questions from time to time.I'm basically looking to bounce ideas back and forth.

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    Dbol 40-60mg daily? Along with test enthanate and suspension...and he has two support supps. Liv52 and Fish Oil...beautiful.

    Is this his first cycle? He will grow just fine with less compounds...I would do 2 max for the first cycle, test base with an oral (if Dbol is his choice, let him have it I suppose). I see absolutely no reason to use test sus along with enanthate for your first cycle, just keep the test-e as your base and run an oral on top.
    Originally Posted by LiamTaylor View Post
    I push myself to limits everyday i train tbh, visited my mum yesterday and she said i looked a bit bigger, she doesnt know about the steroids

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    Originally Posted by mich29

    his goal is to gain 5 to 10lbs..he's done a great job so far pushing his body naturally putting on about 30lbs alot of it solid muscle with some fat here and there. at this point after putting on 30lbs he has switched up his workouts,eating,sleeping etc and is making progress at about 1 to 2lbs a month but after 30lbs .I would say he has earned the right to try his first cycle. stats are 6'1 he's around 255 260 at about 13% bodyfat.

    I figured it would be easier to post this here as he will ask me questions from time to time.I'm basically looking to bounce ideas back and forth.
    You realize 260 at 13% if he lost 15 pounds of fat he would be 245 pounds at 7 percent. which I think would be a little bigger then arnold was.......

    So even though its bs he's that big when you call me a liar then rely the info to him to lose 15 pounds and go compete

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    Originally Posted by GreenEarth View Post
    Dbol 40-60mg daily? Along with test enthanate and suspension...and he has two support supps. Liv52 and Fish Oil...beautiful.

    Is this his first cycle? He will grow just fine with less compounds...I would do 2 max for the first cycle, test base with an oral (if Dbol is his choice, let him have it I suppose). I see absolutely no reason to use test sus along with enanthate for your first cycle, just keep the test-e as your base and run an oral on top.
    I believe he may have ran test at some point but I believe it was low dosed I'll have to ask him.test e and dbol sound like a good mix

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