Winny tabs or masteron?
- 05-07-2012, 11:18 PM
Winny tabs or masteron?
Hey everybody, I am throwing a few ideas around on a cycle I plan to run starting in July. My goal: basically a recomp. I want a little size, drop BF, harden my physique, and really get vascular as f*%K! My debate lies with masteron or winny...I wants some thoughts on what everybody thinks. Here are 2 different cycle lay outs:
Cycle 1)
Turinabol 50mg ed week 1-6
Test E 500 mg/week 1-12
Masteron E 400mg/week 3-12
Aromasin week 3: 20mg ed
week 4- 19 10mg eod (1 week past PCT)
* aromasin may just be kept on hand during mast run and used during PCT
Cycle 2)
Turinabol 50mg ed week 1-6
Test E 500mg/week 1-12
Winny tabs 50mg ed week 7-13
aromasin week 3: 20mg ed
week 4- 19 10mg eod (1 week past PCT)
PCT: week 14-18
Nolva 40/20/20/10
DAA 3g ed
aromasin as stated above.
I will also be running Toco-8 throughout the entire cycle/ PCT.
In terms of my goals what do you guys think would give me the best results?
I am 230 lb and will be consuming 2g of protein per lb of body weight, 1g of carbs per lb, and 0.5g of fat per lb.
All clean foods. - 05-08-2012, 12:55 AM
Go with the Mast. It'll keep you using only one methyl during the cycle. And you'll have more weeks on mast than you would on winny. I'd bump the Tbol to 8 weeks, though.
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- 05-08-2012, 06:58 AM
Originally Posted by burlyman
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-08-2012, 10:48 AM
Tbol is a non-aromatizing, no-bloat, lean tissue gainer. It increases glycogen retention, but not to the degree of Dbol or Anadrol. Strength goes up, but not immensely. It's a great compound in my opinion. One of my favorites. Some people might get headaches/BP issues from it, but that's not an issue I usually deal with on a cycle. Because you don't get the massive bloat of one of the other bulking orals, you also don't lose a massive amount of size at the end. Of course, I always recommend liver support of TUDCA.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body... - 05-08-2012, 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by burlyman
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. -
- 05-08-2012, 01:19 PM
- 05-08-2012, 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by superbeast668
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-08-2012, 01:57 PM
Originally Posted by superbeast668
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-09-2012, 12:44 AM
Masteron is a good hardener. So is Winny. But I would not consider any AAS to be fat shredders. That's not what they are intended for. They can help you use food for muscle building instead of fat deposition, but they don't shred you up. Fat shredding happens in the kitchen, plain and simple.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body... - 05-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by burlyman
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-10-2012, 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by burlyman
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-10-2012, 01:19 AM
500mg for 15 is what "I" would do, but others might lean toward the other option. I always prefer lower doses and more weeks when looking at cycles.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body... - 05-17-2012, 11:27 AM
Check my log bro. Im starting my recomp of Dbol/Test E/Winny this weekend. I would go with 500mg EW. I have never used Mast so I cant chime in on that.
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice - 05-17-2012, 01:43 PM
Originally Posted by DangerDave
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-17-2012, 01:45 PM
Could you tbol and winny at the same time or is that too much on the liver?
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-17-2012, 02:05 PM
- 05-17-2012, 02:07 PM
I wouldn't run them together personally. You could do a nice 12 weeks of injections of 500mg ew and then week 14 start your PCT. that gives you about 10 weeks "On"
The thing with longer cycles is how long do you want to be shutdown? The longer you are shutdown the longer the recovery. Do you want one maybe 2 big cycles a year? Or 4 smaller ones?
I'm running 16 weeks total as of right now. Might cut it back to 14. This will be my last long cycle (using up some Test E). Just because I would like to do more than 2 cycles in a year... food for thought bro. Either way its legit and gains will be epic!The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice - 05-17-2012, 02:28 PM
Originally Posted by DangerDave
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-17-2012, 03:00 PM
Sounds like a good plan bro. SD is KING!!!
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice - 05-17-2012, 04:13 PM
- 05-17-2012, 04:19 PM
Originally Posted by DangerDave
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-17-2012, 04:36 PM
But of course I'm going to have patience. I'm going to e leaning out as much as I can
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced. - 05-17-2012, 04:59 PM
Originally Posted by DangerDave
- 05-17-2012, 05:05 PM
Originally Posted by carnivore24
- 05-17-2012, 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by carnivore24
I'm just a dude chasing a dream
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