newbie....test enan/anavar HELP
- 05-05-2012, 03:23 PM
newbie....test enan/anavar HELP
Im a total newbie, so apologize if I dont know much. im 30...been lifting since i was about 15. im in great shape, but want to get in the best. Im finally taking that plunge. Im going to be doing test enan and anavar. I wanted to know suggestions on recommended dosages, but mostly wanted to know should i be taking anything else with it to prevent gyno or any other side effects during my cycle as well as what and when should my PCT be? I appreciate any help guys. I really dont want a lack of my own test production when i come off
- 05-05-2012, 04:51 PM
So you decided to start up with Test-e and Oxadrolone Oo! Damn! Maybe some of the more chemical guys here can help , on the mean time I would suggest getting Hawthorn Berry , Milk Thistle and Taurine for cycle support...As for PCT I would think Nolva is a good option , but then again liquid Clomid is kinda good too!...wait for the guys to point yah in the right direction!!
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05-05-2012, 05:39 PM
05-06-2012, 02:02 PM
Like Detroit said... what dosage? How long will you run it? Anavar is expensive to run at a dose that will give you results... but its safe on the liver.
The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
05-07-2012, 12:44 AM
05-08-2012, 10:55 AM
05-08-2012, 11:20 AM
We need a few details to further help.
1) How much of each
2) How long?
From there we can give ancillary advice.
05-09-2012, 12:57 AM
Typical first timer Test E cycle would be typically 10 weeks long. 400-500mg of test split in 2 dosages, which means you pin twice a week. mon/thur or tues/friday however you want to split it evenly. Anavar i would run at least at 50mg a day for better results. only downside to var is its a tad expensive but i would run it maybe week 2-10. not sure on how it would be for 10 weeks on the liver, but anavar is a mild 17aa oral so it may be fine.
You would take an AI inhibitor, which keeps your estrogen levels in check. use something like arimidex, take it for 1 week straight then every other day @ .5mg for constant levels.
when you take your last shot you then wait 2 weeks for the Ester to clear until you start pct.
Man beast has a pretty good thread about Post cycle therapy (pct) i would check it out
you would then start a 4 week pct use clomid
Week 1-10 Test E
Week 2-10 Anavar
week 1 Adex ed @.5mg
week 2-10 eod @.5mg
Week 12 start pct (2 weeks after last shot)
Clomid day 1 150mg
rest of week 1 100mg
week 2 100mg daily
week 3 50 mg
week 4 50 mg
05-09-2012, 03:13 AM
05-09-2012, 11:32 AM
1) Run HCG on cycle, weeks 2-10 @ 250iu twice/week. Have legit Clomid, DAA, Toco-8 and an AI to run in PCT and you'll be fine. i also suggest GHRP/GHRH combo's as this has been the best addition to my PCT experience, to date.
2) Do a HCG blast at the end of the cycle during the time that you are clearing the test and the first week of PCT. Take something like 1000iu/week for 3 weeks. Starting on the 3rd week, you would also take Clomid, Natty T-Booster and an AI and continue PCT just the same as above.
05-09-2012, 03:28 PM
thanks for all the feedback guys......I'm going to be doing 250mgs of test a week along with 250mgs of anavar a week, hows that sound?....my guy here, suggests dont worry about taking anything else to prevent estrogen during the cycle unless I feel my nipples get sensitive.....any feedback to that?
05-09-2012, 03:31 PM
I think you're under dosing the Anavar. Look at 50-60 mg/day to start.
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05-09-2012, 03:42 PM
05-10-2012, 03:39 AM
when you take into account the ester weight of test E i believe its around 45mg. so every 100mg of test e contains 55mg of test. Dose the test at least at 400. your sides wont be much at all if any with a proper AI. like mentioned, any dosage will shut you down, the anavar contributes as well so mg doesnt really make much of a differenece
05-10-2012, 04:53 AM
I believe test e is 72mg of test, but regardless 250 a week will shut down natural production and will only give u enough to put u in the upper level of normal. 500mg is the best option, and if ur only running 10 weeks I don't think hcg is nessasarey, but the ghrp/ghrh is a great idea, I'm getting ready to run some peptides. The r perfect for pct.Originally Posted by DNAMP
05-10-2012, 12:07 PM
05-10-2012, 02:49 PM
An interesting side note is that the smaller ester chains, weigh less. This is important because it brings another advantage of shorter chain ester drugs to the table. If the ester weighs less, the amount of testosterone per milliliter or cubic centimeter (cc, they are interchangeable) is more. For example, testosterone suspension is 100% testosterone as we have said previously. It has no ester. The short chain ester propionate, is roughly 74% testosterone. This means that if you take a typical 1cc shot of prop at 100mg/cc, this is actually 74mg of testosterone and 26 milligrams of ester weight. A larger ester such as enanthate, is roughly 55% testosterone. Twenty-eight (45%) percent of the gross weight of a given amount of testosterone enanthate is the actual enanthate ester, not the active testosterone that you are searching for. So, a typical 200mg/cc shot of enanthate only contains 110mg of active testosterone.
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05-10-2012, 05:16 PM
05-10-2012, 09:31 PM
This is right!! Nice post. Where the hell do u get test acetate? And do u have to pin it everyday?Originally Posted by DetroitHammer
05-11-2012, 11:37 AM
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