How does my next cycle look?
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04-12-2012 05:36 PM
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Week 1-16 N2Guard
Week 1-12 375mg Primoteston Depot (Enanthate)
Week 1-4 30mg D-Bol wildcat
Week 5-9 Trenazone
Week 1-12 .5mg A-dex EOD
PCT 2 weeks after last shot
DAA/Erase/tamoxifen/T-Bol (thermolife)....
Should I run A-Dex into PCT?
How does this look ?
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04-12-2012 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
Week 1-16 N2Guard
Week 1-12 375mg Primoteston Depot (Enanthate)
Week 1-4 30mg D-Bol wildcat
Week 5-9 Trenazone
Week 1-12 .5mg A-dex EOD
PCT 2 weeks after last shot
DAA/Erase/tamoxifen/T-Bol (thermolife)....
Should I run A-Dex into PCT?
How does this look ?
I'm hoping this t-bol stuff isn't a hormone, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it isn't. Don't run adex with nolva as they clash. Run at least 500mg of test e.
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04-12-2012 06:02 PM
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So should Adex be ran right up until PCT start (2 weeks after last shot) or the week of my last shot?
Another words week 1-14 for ADEX or week 1-12
This is my third AAS cycle, in another thread I was trying to figure out where my acne came from in the past , I was trying to avoid acne sides at all costs, that's why I chose 375mg instead of 500mg
T-Bol is a natural test booster by Thermolife
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04-12-2012 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
T-Bol is a natural test booster by Thermolife
Definitely overkill, but if you have it I guess you can use it.
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04-12-2012 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jt339
Definitely overkill, but if you have it I guess you can use it.
No
I don't have it. If DAA/Erase/tamoxifen is sufficient I'll keep it with that.
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04-12-2012 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
No
I don't have it. If DAA/Erase/tamoxifen is sufficient I'll keep it with that.
Nolva at 20mg for four weeks would be sufficient. I'd personally save the DAA for after pct ends so you can continue to boost test levels. Most people here seem to think that after four weeks your test levels are back to normal and this is usually NOT the case. They may be in the normal range, but they aren't as high as they were before the cycle started. This has always been the case for me.
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04-12-2012 11:36 PM
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I just remembered I have 2 bottles of Biotiva Bioforge in my stash. I think that might be a nice addition to PCT.
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04-13-2012 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
I just remembered I have 2 bottles of Biotiva Bioforge in my stash. I think that might be a nice addition to PCT.
I don't know what 90% of this bull**** is. I'm willing to bet its not worth it though.
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04-13-2012 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jt339
I don't know what 90% of this bull**** is. I'm willing to bet its not worth it though.
Lol, they are actually pretty popular supplements. Biotiva is a Big brand, tons of logs on this product. It's a natural test booster, it obviously never gets mentioned in old school
Hormone use.
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04-13-2012 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
Lol, they are actually pretty popular supplements. Biotiva is a Big brand, tons of logs on this product. It's a natural test booster, it obviously never gets mentioned in old school
Hormone use.
I know old farts who have been using for years whose bloodwork comes back good every time and they don't know what any of that **** is. NAC and ALA for liver, statin for cholesterol if its bad and an ace inhibitor/beta blocker for bp. The last two are rarely needed.
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04-13-2012 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
jt339
I know old farts who have been using for years whose bloodwork comes back good every time and they don't know what any of that **** is. NAC and ALA for liver, statin for cholesterol if its bad and an ace inhibitor/beta blocker for bp. The last two are rarely needed.
beta blockers help lower bp?
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04-13-2012 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by
ISU152
beta blockers help lower bp?
Yes sir.
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04-13-2012 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jt339
Yes sir.
Good to know propranolol on hand
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04-13-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
So should Adex be ran right up until PCT start (2 weeks after last shot) or the week of my last shot?
Another words week 1-14 for ADEX or week 1-12
This is my third AAS cycle, in another thread I was trying to figure out where my acne came from in the past , I was trying to avoid acne sides at all costs, that's why I chose 375mg instead of 500mg
T-Bol is a natural test booster by Thermolife
Sides will be nearly identical between 375mg test and 500mg test. If you want to avoid acne take 10g of b5 (pantothenic acid) a day if you cannot get accutane. Acne is something I'm very prone to, but 40mg accutane and 10g b5 a day completely gets rid of it. You can run the adex right up until pct.
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04-13-2012 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by
jt339
Yes sir.
So what would be a recommended dose of say, xanax. With the goal of course to reduce bp
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04-13-2012 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
ISU152
So what would be a recommended dose of say, xanax. With the goal of course to reduce bp
Xanax isn't a beta blocker bro.
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04-15-2012 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jt339
Sides will be nearly identical between 375mg test and 500mg test. If you want to avoid acne take 10g of b5 (pantothenic acid) a day if you cannot get accutane. Acne is something I'm very prone to, but 40mg accutane and 10g b5 a day completely gets rid of it. You can run the adex right up until pct.
I will probably do 500 mg 12.5 weeks( i have 25 amps). I will up my B5, I don't want to get into accutane. My last ph cycle brought no acne with 2g B5, clearasil wash, N2guard.... That's all......
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04-15-2012 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
Flexappeal
I will probably do 500 mg 12.5 weeks( i have 25 amps). I will up my B5, I don't want to get into accutane. My last ph cycle brought no acne with 2g B5, clearasil wash, N2guard.... That's all......
True, but different chemicals will affect every differently. When I used hdrol I broke out really bad and got sensitive nips. I've since run test, dbol, drol, tren, superdrol and mast and none of them gave me acne other than the superdrol. On paper that doesn't make sense since hdrol is suppose to be mild especially compared to the other stuff I've used. I'm sure you'll be fine, but I just wanted to give you some perspective.
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04-15-2012 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jt339
True, but different chemicals will affect every differently. When I used hdrol I broke out really bad and got sensitive nips. I've since run test, dbol, drol, tren, superdrol and mast and none of them gave me acne other than the superdrol. On paper that doesn't make sense since hdrol is suppose to be mild especially compared to the other stuff I've used. I'm sure you'll be fine, but I just wanted to give you some perspective.
Thanks , This was a major factor deciding this next cycle. I've done 2 cycles in the past. About 9-10 years ago. This was my dilemma :
From my other thread:
I am planning a future cycle and want to avoid acne at all costs. Ive done 2 cycles in the past, they looked like this:
Sustanon 500 mg a week
On a scale from 1-10 this cycle gave me a 2 for acne.
Enanthate 500 mg a week
Deca 400 mg a week
On a scale of 1-10 this cycle gave me a severe 10 for acne. It flared as soon as I started clomid PCT.
The acne was really bad and painful, I really need to avoid this again.
Judging on these cycles acne is coming from test or deca. Any idea which would more commonly bring acne on? My guess was the deca. There was a little bit in the sust. In cycle #1, and obviously alot more in #2.. But that's the case with the test also.
And the latest EPI/rs-transaderm cycle brought no acne... I used salycic acid daily wash, N2Guard, and 2g of B5.....these were not in my first 2 cycles..
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04-15-2012 03:54 PM
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Deca is known for causing acne, however, I get bad acne in pct and I always use clomid. Your acne could be due to that. It usually takes a few week for it to kick in for me though, not right at the beginning of pct. Try nolva or torem.
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