test prop

[Eric160]

never ran an injectable cycle before. as most peoples first cycle i intend to run test only. the trend seems to be that most ppl run 500mg test e for 12 weeks. at the moment i only have acess to test prop so i intend to run it for 8 weeks at 150mg eod averaging 525mg per week. Because ive read that test prop tends to cause less bloat then test e i have 2 questions. first if anyone can tell me the science behind why test p causes less bloat then enthanate. second, because of this does a test p cycle require a lower dose of an ai then a test e cycle. i would like to stay as dry as possible without inhibiting gains.

 

[ManBeast]

There really is no science behind p causing less bloat, bloat is caused by not managing estrogen, neither compound aromatizes more or less than the other.

 

[Eric160]

so what would i expect to use as an ai. does adex at .25mg eod sound about right? also do i start using the ai at the time of my first injection

 

[ManBeast]

i'd start the adex at .25 e3d in the second week.

 

[DangerDave]

When would adex start being used with test e? 4th or 5th week? Just curious for a comparison of test E & P.

 

[ManBeast]

3rd week with test-e, second is ok too if you have naturally high-e.

 

[DangerDave]

Ok cool thanks. Doesn't test e kick in week 4 usually? So are you just getting ahead of the game by starting week 3? Or has it started aromatising by that time?

 

[ManBeast]

its already releasing decently into your system by week 3 and elevating above normal (for most) by the end of week 2, so its "perfect" timing.

 

[Austinmck17]

would any otc supplements such as erase, pro, or licogenix be good as an AI on cycle for test? or would it be necessary to get a prescription grade AI and save the erase or erase pro for PCT? I have 4 bottles
of pro stocked lol and 2 lico

 

[DetroitHammer]

would any otc supplements such as erase, pro, or licogenix be good as an AI on cycle for test? or would it be necessary to get a prescription grade AI and save the erase or erase pro for PCT? I have 4 bottles
of pro stocked lol and 2 lico

All I see in my research on those products is "feel great bro....Love this stuff, I used to be soft, now I'm hard.... I feel more aggression in the gym... I always had high estrogen, now I have it under control." I haven't seen one credible study that suggests any of the OTC works like advertised. When someone says they feel a certain way without proof, it's like they feel good about the economy. These OTC products may have clinical studies backing up the claims, but they're OTC for a reason.

 

[DangerDave]

its already releasing decently into your system by week 3 and elevating above normal (for most) by the end of week 2, so its "perfect" timing.

Awesome! Thanks for the answer manbeast

And got the OTC question- I tried OTC stuff before but then I tried a SERM... never going back from the prescription grade. Its my body and I want the best/safest recovery for it. Its your call but I would only try stuff that has studies and proof of its effects.

 

[DNAMP]

Bloat and water retention vary from person to person. I just ran test e with dbol and I'm ~10% bf. I had very little bloat and I didn't run an ai till week 6. If you wanna see some sick results and be super dry throw some anavar in there at 40mg a day with test week 1-4 then last 2 weeks plus 2 weeks leading to pct