FIRST CYCLE AAS --- Test-E 500mg 12 weeks with a 4 week SD kicker!!!

[Lynck]

The title says it all. I have done 5 ph cycles over the last 2 years and now I feel I am ready for my first trip to the dark side. I've done all my research. I have all pct supplements, supports, and emergency supplements on hand. Here is the layout.

Cycle:
Test-E 500mg 1-12
Superdrol (SD) 1-4

Cycle supports:
CEL cycle assist
Himalaya liver care
Controlled Labs Orange Triad
Fish oil
Letro (.25 eod if needed)

Break:
13-14

Pct:
15-19
Nova 40/20/20/10/10
DAA 3g ED
Lean Xtreme 3/2/2/1/1

 

[Kaydoh]

ello el just posted a thread for pretty much the same cycle. what are your emergency supplements?

 

[Lynck]

I will have starting pictures and measurements today. Im pretty stoked about all of this. Im taking cycle support by cel just to be safe daily and himalaya liver care too. I have letro on hand if I get signs of puffy nips or gyno.

 

[Lynck]

ello el just posted a thread for pretty much the same cycle. what are your emergency supplements?

Letro and caber really if I have issues. I have some cialis also if I have libido issues. Well see. Like I said....I've only ran a ph before. Never injectable test.

 

[Lynck]

Also plan on running normal bb'ing workout. 4-5 days a week. Legs. Chest and triceps. Back and biceps. Shoulders, traps, and forearms. And probably a cardio and abs day.

Diet will be full in bulk.
4100 calories.
125 fat.
400 carbs.
330 protein.

 

[gaijininjapan]

looks good, similar to my cycle. you won't need caber, it's for prolactin. You shouldn't have prolactin issues with this cycle. Also, are you planning on no AI at all whatsoever? get bloods near end of cycle to see if you need it, and a week of nolva at 40 seems a bit high. I'm only running nolva for 4 wks at 20/20/10/10, but I'm using exemstane along with is.

 

[Lynck]

looks good, similar to my cycle. you won't need caber, it's for prolactin. You shouldn't have prolactin issues with this cycle. Also, are you planning on no AI at all whatsoever? get bloods near end of cycle to see if you need it, and a week of nolva at 40 seems a bit high. I'm only running nolva for 4 wks at 20/20/10/10, but I'm using exemstane along with is.

Well I was going to use letro as an ai on cycle if I needed it. I have it on hand.

 

[Lynck]

Pre-cycle progress pics.

 

[Lynck]

Pre-cycle strength max

Flat bench 305
Incline bench 245
Bb back squat 315
Deadlift 335

 

[Lynck]

Pre-cycle measurements:

Starting weight 194lbs

Neck 16
Shoulders 50 1/2
Chest 42
Waist at naval 37 1/2
L bicep 13 1/4
R bicep 13 1/2
L forearm 12 1/4
R forearm 12 1/2
L quad 23 7/8
R quad 24 1/8
L calf 16 1/8
R calf 16 1/8

 

[Lynck]

Day 1 Saturday 12/10/11

Starting Weight: 194lbs

Well I finally did it. I bit the bullet and injected for the first time. I was scared like crazy. But honestly the more you think about it and read about it...aas theoretically is a lot safer than most ph's. At least for your body. So I used a 23g to draw and inject with into my right glute. It actually was pretty painless to my surprise. Also popped 20mg of SD and some supports too. Ill be injecting 250mg on Saturdays and Wednesdays.

Legs supersetted with forearms

Bb back squat
45-8
135-8
135-8
185-8
185-6
135-8
135-7
Reverse bb curls
40-12
45-12
45-12
50-12
55-12

Seated calf raise
90-12
90-12
135-12
160-10
Wrist curl with straight bar
45-18
55-18
65-14
65-12

Seated leg extension machine
90-10
90-10
90-12
Rope twist up and down with weight
15lbs
15lbs
15lbs

Leg curl machine
70-10
70-10
70-10
Behind back wrist bb curl
35-14
40-14
40-14

 

[DetroitHammer]

So I used a 23g to draw and inject with into my right glute.

Don't draw and inject with the same needle.

 

[Lynck]

Don't draw and inject with the same needle.

Ok. Noted. But why? For sanitary purposes?

 

[DetroitHammer]

Ok. Noted. But why? For sanitary purposes?

It will dull the needle tip and hurt going in. If you've ever seen a tip after drawing from a rubber stopper you'd never do it again. Maybe someone can paste an image to show you. I'd draw with maybe a 20ga and inject with a 23.

 

[waynaferd]

especially if you hit the bottom of the vial....ouch!!!

 

[Lynck]

It will dull the needle tip and hurt going in. If you've ever seen a tip after drawing from a rubber stopper you'd never do it again. Maybe someone can paste an image to show you. I'd draw with maybe a 20ga and inject with a 23.

Hmmm...lol I drew out of a rubber stopper and wad fine with it. But ill definitely take your advice. Thank you.

 

[Lynck]

Day 2 Sunday 12/11/11

Weight: 195lbs (+1lbs)

Day two and no sides obviously. I have a little soreness in my glute I have been having to massage...but other than that all is good. I had a mild headache but I usually get them the first week of a ph. Im stoked to see how good I feel with sd and test together. It should be pretty awesome for lack of sides. Well see.


Chest and triceps

Chest

Flat Bench
45-10
135-10
135-10
185-7
185-6
185-5
Incline bench
135-8
135-8
135-8
135-8
185-6
Flat db flys
40-8
40-8
40-8
35-12
Decline bb bench
135-8
155-8
155-8
Peck deck machine
80-14
80-12


Triceps

Db kickbacks
6-10
6-10
6-10
6-10
6-10
6-10
Supersetted
Close grip pushups
10
10
10
10
10
10

 

[Lukef2000]

Subbed for the ride bro! If you think you feel good now wait till week four when the test really starts "kicking"!

 

[Lynck]

Day 3 Monday 12/12/11

Weight 196.4lbs (+2.4lbs)

So far so good!! I've noticed nothing at all except the small weight gain so far...which is water most likely. I hit my diet in point today, which was awesome. Cajun red potatoes and turkey burgers for the win!!! Topped off with shake and bake chicken and A1 sauce. I did feel A LOT more endurance during the workout today. I don't know what it was but I just could keep going and going.

Back

Wide pullups
7
7
7
7
7
Under hand bent bb rows
135-12
165-8
185-8
195-8
205-8
Close grip lat pulldowns
100-12
120-8
130-6
Tbar rows neutral grip
90-12
115-10
135-6
Deadlifts
185-10
225-8

Biceps

Close grip inward preacher curl
35-12
55-10
65-6
45-8
21s with straight bar wide
35
35
35

 

[adnscmplx]

I am doing a very similar cycle right now. I'm trying to recomp so I am runnning the test at a bit lower dose for longer and am eating less cals but otherwise about the same. I wish I was eating 4100 cals, that sounds delicious. Obviously I will be following.

How tall are you?

Good luck.

 

[Lynck]

I am doing a very similar cycle right now. I'm trying to recomp so I am runnning the test at a bit lower dose for longer and am eating less cals but otherwise about the same. I wish I was eating 4100 cals, that sounds delicious. Obviously I will be following.

How tall are you?

Good luck.

Its hard to get 4100. At all. I've been hitting 3400. Im 5'8".

 

[Srt4Muscle]

are you running the letro or just have it standing by?

i never understand why people say they have a AI on hand for sides, to me if you have it on hand why not run .25 EOD and keep estrogen in check for your entire cycle.

 

[Lynck]

are you running the letro or just have it standing by?

i never understand why people say they have a AI on hand for sides, to me if you have it on hand why not run .25 EOD and keep estrogen in check for your entire cycle.

Probably starting week 3 ill run letro at. 25 EOD.

 

[Srt4Muscle]

Pretty sure your supposed to run letro acouple weeks prior to cycle and then throughout but I could be wrong

 

[Lynck]

Pretty sure your supposed to run letro acouple weeks prior to cycle and then throughout but I could be wrong

Definitely don't start it prior to the cycle at all.

Shoulders and traps tomorrow boys!!

 

[adnscmplx]

Its hard to get 4100. At all. I've been hitting 3400. Im 5'8".

I bet it is fun to try. Enjoy it. Hopefully I can get lean enough to where I can do a bulk, that would be sweet.

 

[Lynck]

Day 5 Wednesday 12/14/11

Weight : 199lbs (+5lbs)

Im already starting to noticeably look fuller all around. I have got three comments in one days today about looking bigger. Pretty damn good within a week right? Im doing arms tomorrow and then that wraps up week one. No sides at all. Im starting to feel a little hornier quite a bit though. Maybe the test?

Shoulders and traps

Seated db press
50-10
50-10
65-8
65-8
Smith machine military press
135-8
135-8
135-8
135-8
Straight bar front raises
40-12
45-12
50-9
Seated side db raises
15-10
15-10
15-10
Upper cable rope face pulls
70-12
70-12
90-12
110-12
Front bb shrugs
135-16
135-16
185-10
185-10
Bb upright rows
95-10
95-10
Db shrugs
60-26

 

[Lynck]

Day 6 Thursday 12/15/11

Weight: 200.6lbs (+6.6lbs)

Holy **** am I packing on weight!!! Wow!!! And I have never ever seen my arms this swole and huge before. I swear they swelled up 3 more inches during arms today...seriously.

Arms

21s
40
45
50
55
Supersetted with
Close grip flat bb bench
135-12
155-11
185-11
205-5

Db concentration curls seated
25-10
25-10
25-10
Skullcrushers ez bar
65-10
65-10
65-10

Preacher curl seated ez bar
55-10
55-10
55-10
Rope pulldown cable
60-10
60-10
60-10

 

[Srt4Muscle]

your gonna see some sick gains with a sd kicker bro. your maxes are way higher than mine but your workout looks the same weights, some less some more, than mine. i thought we were in the same category until i went back and read your maxes haha i had to edit my post lol

how much weight are you counting for the bar on a smith machine?
are you wide or close grip on the preacher curls/skullcrusher ez bar?

by your numbers it seems like your not going to failure on any sets? is there a reason for that

 

[Srt4Muscle]

i guess im confused from this sentance thats found in most letro information."Letrozole has a 2-4 day half-life, and it needs to be taken for up to 60 days to get a steady blood plasma level" seems like you have the proper dosing planned at about 1.5-2mg per week total. good job

why did you buy letro? did it look like the best deal you could find as far as doses/price? thats why i almost bought it but i decided to just go with adex instead.

 

[Matthersby]

 

[Lynck]

Day 8 Saturday 12/17/11

Weight: ??

Legs supersetted with forearms

Bb back squat
45-8
135-8
135-8
185-7
185-6
185-6
135-8
Reverse curl
45-12
45-12
50-12
55-12
55-12
55-12

Seated calf
135-12
135-12
160-10
160-10
Wrist curl
65-18
65-18
65-15
65-14

Leg curl machine
70-10
70-10
80-10
Behind bb curl
45-20
50-17
55-15

Seated leg extension
90-10
90-10
Rope twist
10
10

 

[Lynck]

Day 9 Sunday 12/18/11

Weight: ??

Chest and triceps

Flat Bench
135-10
135-10
135-10
205-5
205-5
235-3
255-1
225-4
185-7

Incline bench
135-8
135-8
135-8
Supersetted with
Incline db flys
20-8
20-8
20-8

Wide grip pushups
20
20
20
20
16
Supersetted with
Close grip pushups
5
5
5
4
4

 

[Kaydoh]

Pre-cycle strength max

Flat bench 305
Incline bench 245
Bb back squat 315
Deadlift 335

u sumna bish r u really benching 305 for max? off your chest? or just parrallel. I mean i am squatting 315x10 for 2 sets going 90 degrees with a belt. and i can't bench 305. anyways if so good job.

 

[Lynck]

u sumna bish r u really benching 305 for max? off your chest? or just parrallel. I mean i am squatting 315x10 for 2 sets going 90 degrees with a belt. and i can't bench 305. anyways if so good job.

Slow pull down to my nipples. Pause. Slow push to lockout. No help or liftoff.

I want 365 at the end of this cycle. I know its a reach. But well see.

 

[thapr3dat0r]

u sumna bish r u really benching 305 for max? off your chest? or just parrallel. I mean i am squatting 315x10 for 2 sets going 90 degrees with a belt. and i can't bench 305. anyways if so good job.

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. My deads and squats are WAY higher than my bench. Lynck, no offense intended bro but either you're a bench freak or your other lifts are lacking. But in all honesty I think my bench just sucks, ha ha.

Holy **** @ the picture of the pin tips! That third one made me sick to imagine pinning with. Like DH, I always draw with a 20g and push with a fresh 23g. May not tear you up now but when running short esters with EOD pins, you develop the new needle habit very easily.

 

[adnscmplx]

Hey Lynck-

Are you retaining water? I totally am. I'm just starting week 3 of beast at 20, test e at 300 per week and hCG at 500 per week. I'm up 10 lbs but i'm definitely bloated. Is it just me?

 

[indysoccer16]

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. My deads and squats are WAY higher than my bench. Lynck, no offense intended bro but either you're a bench freak or your other lifts are lacking. But in all honesty I think my bench just sucks, ha ha.

Holy **** @ the picture of the pin tips! That third one made me sick to imagine pinning with. Like DH, I always draw with a 20g and push with a fresh 23g. May not tear you up now but when running short esters with EOD pins, you develop the new needle habit very easily.

I put up numbers like he does also. I messed up my back, so I am just getting my squats back, so I am only squatting around 275 x 5 going slow and 90 degrees. On my last cycle I was putting up 405 x 2 on bench and only hitting 315 x 5 on squats and dead-lifting 405 x 5

On bench I go to one first length from my chest because of a torn shoulder, but I am built for bench. Short arms, big chest makes the ROM pretty small. I am hoping this upcoming cycle I can kill some squats. My legs are pretty large and solid for the little weight I am moving but I am hoping to hit 350 x 10 by the end of this cycle on squats

Hey Lynck-

Are you retaining water? I totally am. I'm just starting week 3 of beast at 20, test e at 300 per week and hCG at 500 per week. I'm up 10 lbs but i'm definitely bloated. Is it just me?

Did you change your diet when you started the cycle to increase calories and water intake? That alone to put 5-10lbs on me when I run cycles. Going from my daily 2400 to 3400-4000 packs on a couple pounds in a short amount of time, esp when you are running gear.

 

[Lynck]

Ha, I was thinking the same thing. My deads and squats are WAY higher than my bench. Lynck, no offense intended bro but either you're a bench freak or your other lifts are lacking. But in all honesty I think my bench just sucks, ha ha.

Holy **** @ the picture of the pin tips! That third one made me sick to imagine pinning with. Like DH, I always draw with a 20g and push with a fresh 23g. May not tear you up now but when running short esters with EOD pins, you develop the new needle habit very easily.

It really doesn't bother me at all about the pins. I mean I bled a little more this last time....but no more aching or pain really.

And I know my lifts are kind of ****ty for squats and deads. I mean last year I was max squatting 405 just below parallel and deadlifted 455 max. But then I hurt my back badly on a squat with no belt and bad form. So I took some time off of it...just now in the last few months getting back into it hard.

Hey Lynck-

Are you retaining water? I totally am. I'm just starting week 3 of beast at 20, test e at 300 per week and hCG at 500 per week. I'm up 10 lbs but i'm definitely bloated. Is it just me?

Im actually leaner than I was when I started and I am up 9lbs.

I put up numbers like he does also. I messed up my back, so I am just getting my squats back, so I am only squatting around 275 x 5 going slow and 90 degrees. On my last cycle I was putting up 405 x 2 on bench and only hitting 315 x 5 on squats and dead-lifting 405 x 5

On bench I go to one first length from my chest because of a torn shoulder, but I am built for bench. Short arms, big chest makes the ROM pretty small. I am hoping this upcoming cycle I can kill some squats. My legs are pretty large and solid for the little weight I am moving but I am hoping to hit 350 x 10 by the end of this cycle on squats

Did you change your diet when you started the cycle to increase calories and water intake? That alone to put 5-10lbs on me when I run cycles. Going from my daily 2400 to 3400-4000 packs on a couple pounds in a short amount of time, esp when you are running gear.

I pretty much just increased fat and protein a little bit. But I have been bulking for months now at 3500 calories. So another 600 isn't a big deal to me. Just hard to hit it clean.

 

[adnscmplx]

Did you change your diet when you started the cycle to increase calories and water intake? That alone to put 5-10lbs on me when I run cycles. Going from my daily 2400 to 3400-4000 packs on a couple pounds in a short amount of time, esp when you are running gear.

I didn't change my diet but I hardened up while gaining weight the first few days. I've probably been eating more sodium that I had before, so I am going to try to get that under control. Everyone says drink a s-load of water, I can do that. It is a bit better this morning but my face is still kinda puffy, my stomach fat is squishy, and I can't see my lower abs as well. My strength is up so its not all bad.

I don't think its estrogen. Probably just lots of sodium while on gear. Booze (Jameson) tends to work really well for getting extra fluid off but that will have to wait until I am done with the beast.

Don't mean to hijack, good luck Lynck.

 

[thapr3dat0r]

I didn't change my diet but I hardened up while gaining weight the first few days. I've probably been eating more sodium that I had before, so I am going to try to get that under control. Everyone says drink a s-load of water, I can do that. It is a bit better this morning but my face is still kinda puffy, my stomach fat is squishy, and I can't see my lower abs as well. My strength is up so its not all bad.

I don't think its estrogen. Probably just lots of sodium while on gear. Booze (Jameson) tends to work really well for getting extra fluid off but that will have to wait until I am done with the beast.

Don't mean to hijack, good luck Lynck.

Prolly your sodium, water intake and/or diet. Running SD and only 300mg of test this early in your cycle should not bloat you. 500mg of test with an SD kicker was my first cycle also (loved it). I bloated on that cycle but that was after the SD. Cardio can help with that also.

Sorry about injuries being the reason for those squat and dead #s. Didn't consider that. Wasn't trying to be judgmental or insensitive. Good luck with recovery bros.

 

[NuclearLaunch]

In on this. Haven't run any injects and don't really plan to but I want the knowledge. Kill it man.

 

[Spidersilva]

I'm doing a similar cycle except I'm starting with test for 10 weeks and doing a 4 week dbol kicker with a 6 weeks of winny to finish my 12 week cycle off. I'm interested to see your results. What's your diet look like? How many calories are you taking in a day?

 

[Lynck]

Day 11 Tuesday 12/21/11

Weight 203.4lbs (+9.4lbs)


Back

Wide pullups
8
7
7
7
7
Under hand bent bb rows
155-12
165-12
195-9
215-7
Close grip lat pulldowns
120-12
130-7
130-7
140-4
Tbar rows neutral grip
115-12
135-9
135-9


Biceps

Close grip inward preacher curl
60-10
60-8
60-8
60-6
21s with straight bar wide
35
40
45
Upper cable curls
30-14
30-11
40-8

 

[Lynck]

Prolly your sodium, water intake and/or diet. Running SD and only 300mg of test this early in your cycle should not bloat you. 500mg of test with an SD kicker was my first cycle also (loved it). I bloated on that cycle but that was after the SD. Cardio can help with that also.

Sorry about injuries being the reason for those squat and dead #s. Didn't consider that. Wasn't trying to be judgmental or insensitive. Good luck with recovery bros.

Its cool bro.

I'm doing a similar cycle except I'm starting with test for 10 weeks and doing a 4 week dbol kicker with a 6 weeks of winny to finish my 12 week cycle off. I'm interested to see your results. What's your diet look like? How many calories are you taking in a day?

Im shooting for 4100 calories...125 fats.....400++ carbs...and 330 protein. Im trying to eat as clean as possible like usual, but I really have no limits right now. It is what it is.

 

[Spidersilva]

Nice. I'm interested to see how much fat you put on. I start my cycle mid Jan and my diet is the only thing I'm not really sure about. Looking forward to see your results. Good luck man!

 

[uric]

This is the most interesting blog by far. Thanks

Im cutting up this winter with clenbuterol and 6-bromodione. At spring, im starting my 12 weeks off fun:
-1-12 testosterone 300-750mg/w(750 frontload week, 525 during sdrol and 300 during tren)
-1-4 sdrol 15-30mg
-5-11 trenbolone 200mg/w
-1-12 masteron 50mg/e2d
+pct

Cant wait

 

[NuclearLaunch]

This is the most interesting blog by far. Thanks

Im cutting up this winter with clenbuterol and 6-bromodione. At spring, im starting my 12 weeks off fun:
-1-12 testosterone 300-750mg/w(750 frontload week, 525 during sdrol and 300 during tren)
-1-4 sdrol 15-30mg
-5-11 trenbolone 200mg/w
-1-12 masteron 50mg/e2d
+pct

Cant wait

That's a hell of a cycle, although I wouldn't run the SD. But idk.

 

[uric]

That's a hell of a cycle, although I wouldn't run the SD. But idk.

Id run dbol, but its so faked these days. Might throw some winstrol to the end of cycle.

 

[Lynck]

Day 13 Thursday 12/22/11

Weight: 202.8lbs (+8.8lbs)

Omg am I seriously starting to show and put on some serious size!! A lot of comments are coming my way lately...and it is only week two!!

Chest supersetted with Traps

Flat bb bench
Stretch
135-8
135-8
185-8
185-8
195-8
225-7
185-8
Front bb shrugs
Stretch
135-12
135-12
135-12
165-12
165-12
175-12
175-12

Cables crossovers pull up low pulley
40-12
50-12
Straight bar upright rows
65-12
65-12