Aren't they the same thing?
They are pretty much identical. There is a slight chemical difference, but the gains/sides should be unnoticeable. Chemically, Havoc should be slightly stronger than IBE.
no, they are exactly the same compound. methepitiostane, 10mg, 90 caps.
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