first dbol cycle

[xxjoker122]

my boy just got me a deal on 100 10mg pink sqaures and i plan n runnning a 6 week cycle of dbol..im not gonna start taking it until i have the rest of my cycle which includes hawthorne berry, fish oil, animal pak, turanie, prob gonna run cycle support not 100% sure though, im going to pre load hawthorne berry and crannberry extract for liver and kidneys..my last cycle was 8-9 months ago so im well rested and all my test levels are good.also im going to get nova and clomid, and going to stack dbol with some deca to harden up and maybe some test not 100% sure on the test but im deff going to be running deca with this.prob 500 mlg a week of the deca..anyway i was wondering should i try out andromass or andro lean something andro..i know this stuff is new and i was just wondering every ones thoughts on this..sorry if i sound un educated when i type.....also im going to try and do a nice log so if i missed oput on something please informe me also would liuke to know ur thoughts on good hcgs?

[Mr.Sinister]

You run Deca without a test base and you might as well say good buy to captain happy standing at attention for you anytime in the near future.

[xxjoker122]

ya im prob gonna stack it with either test e or sus250 sus is like 95 a vile where im from and im a little low on cash atm )=..what do u think goes good with dbol?

[xxjoker122]

who ever is reading this and has knowledge on it please help me because im taking it no matter what and want to do it right? please

[jason1000]

Just take a low dose of test 250mg a week and you will be good man. I would suggest running the deca a little lower and make the cycle last at least 10-12 weeks as deca is a slow acting steroid. Also, you will maintain your gains better.

[Sweekaters]

Have you run deca before? The metabolites of deca can shut you down for a good year after you come off of it, it's not worth it unless you blast / cruise IMO.

[DetroitHammer]

Deca is only about 60%-70% as anabolic as testosterone; shuts you down hard and provides questionable benefits. Why anyone would use Deca baffles the mind. It lingers on as one of the "must" in AAS usages without regard to current studies that refute much, if not all, of the rumored benefits. More people suffer long term effects from Deca than any other AAS. Why on earth do you want to use Deca? Just use Test, and not the designer blend, Sustanon, which is crazy.

[xxjoker122]

ya im prob just gonna run test e and the dbol but i heard that deca goes good with that stack and yes i took a 250mlg shot of deca 3 weeks ago just to help me gain some weight which i did

[xxjoker122]

being that i only took 250mlg which is nothing lol..i havent had any sides other then a couple of pimples..also ive been taking a otc test booster because i had it laying around and bieng that i took a small amount i didnt get shutdown because ive been pounding my girl for hours daily lol

[jason1000]

Have you run deca before? The metabolites of deca can shut you down for a good year after you come off of it, it's not worth it unless you blast / cruise IMO.

How long would you suggest you would have to blast/cruise for and how likely is recovering your natural test levels afterwards?

[jason1000]

Deca is only about 60%-70% as anabolic as testosterone; shuts you down hard and provides questionable benefits. Why anyone would use Deca baffles the mind. It lingers on as one of the "must" in AAS usages without regard to current studies that refute much, if not all, of the rumored benefits. More people suffer long term effects from Deca than any other AAS. Why on earth do you want to use Deca? Just use Test, and not the designer blend, Sustanon, which is crazy.

I thought deca was more anabolic then test but test has a better ratio of anabolic to androgenic. Is this not true man?

[DetroitHammer]

I thought deca was more anabolic then test but test has a better ratio of anabolic to androgenic. Is this not true man?

Not true. There is no way to accurately measure the androgenic rate with deca, but compared to test, it's only 60%-70% as anabolic. I can cut and paste part of the study, but I've done that already a few months ago.

[DetroitHammer]

How long would you suggest you would have to blast/cruise for and how likely is recovering your natural test levels afterwards?

There is no answer to this, since everyone is different, plus it depends on many factors while you're on cycle too. I know of one guy who was 19 at the time and cycled with Deca and Test. At 21 he was still shut down and did not respond to Dr Crisler's "re-start" program. He should be 22 now and was so depressed he dropped off the boards. But not everyone reacts that way. I know guys who run it hard and swear they feel fine; but those are rare cases. But seriously, why risk it when you don't have to? Deca will not be the difference between looking like Urkel and the Incredible Hulk. At most, you may "feel" stronger, leaner and swear your joints are more lubricated, but many times those are unconfirmed "feelings." The choice is yours, just be careful and do not blindly follow the gym rats without doing your own research. This stuff is very serious so make some serious decisions.

[jason1000]

There is no answer to this, since everyone is different, plus it depends on many factors while you're on cycle too. I know of one guy who was 19 at the time and cycled with Deca and Test. At 21 he was still shut down and did not respond to Dr Crisler's "re-start" program. He should be 22 now and was so depressed he dropped off the boards. But not everyone reacts that way. I know guys who run it hard and swear they feel fine; but those are rare cases. But seriously, why risk it when you don't have to? Deca will not be the difference between looking like Urkel and the Incredible Hulk. At most, you may "feel" stronger, leaner and swear your joints are more lubricated, but many times those are unconfirmed "feelings." The choice is yours, just be careful and do not blindly follow the gym rats without doing your own research. This stuff is very serious so make some serious decisions.

Thanks for your answer man. I've been on it for 6 weeks already at 300mg a week and 600mg of test a week. I took it because that is what my bro had and I did read up that it can be suppresive but didn't know it would be that bad! It kinda makes sense since it has such a long ester. I was thinking of running a 22 week cycle anyway lol 12 weeks bulking getting up to 220-225 at 15% bodyfat and then 10 weeks of cutting on keto getting to 195-200 at 6-7% bodyfat! Does that sound that too crazy?

[xxjoker122]

ok so if i dont run the deca with the test and dbol what would replace it im looking to gain like 40 pound and keep sides down ? ty for input

[jason1000]

ok so if i dont run the deca with the test and dbol what would replace it im looking to gain like 40 pound and keep sides down ? ty for input

40 lbs is a lot bro 6 weeks isn't enough time at all. You would prob have to be "on" for 6 months taking 1 gram of test a week and stacking something else with that and switch the thing that you stack with the test every 2 months.

[xxjoker122]

dam thats why i wanted the deca all my boys take it and they gain like 20 pounds alone from the deca..there so big that there trying to cut down now,but idk ikinda was to try out sus250 but right now im stuck with the dbol so what would be a good dbol stack?and i have a 100 tabs atm 10mlg each?

[Sweekaters]

How long would you suggest you would have to blast/cruise for and how likely is recovering your natural test levels afterwards?

Deca is detectable for up to a year after usage, which means the metabolites are there suppressing your HPTA for 12 months after you come off. Unless you plan on shooting a maintenance dose of test while they clear out, I wouldn't bother with it. In the original rat studies the metabolites completely suppressed LH / FSH I believe.

[jason1000]

Deca is detectable for up to a year after usage, which means the metabolites are there suppressing your HPTA for 12 months after you come off. Unless you plan on shooting a maintenance dose of test while they clear out, I wouldn't bother with it. In the original rat studies the metabolites completely suppressed LH / FSH I believe.

I'm on my 6th week of Deca right now and gonna do another 6 weeks and then prob never use it again. So your saying I should stay blast/cruise for 1 year after taking deca for 12 weeks?

[jason1000]

dam thats why i wanted the deca all my boys take it and they gain like 20 pounds alone from the deca..there so big that there trying to cut down now,but idk ikinda was to try out sus250 but right now im stuck with the dbol so what would be a good dbol stack?and i have a 100 tabs atm 10mlg each?

I would try to get more juice first but I would say use 3 tabs a day which will last you 33 days. 30mg is a good starting dose and 6 weeks is the "optimal" amount of time on it according to a lot of people.