- 01-14-2011, 01:55 AM
What's going on guys. Im new to this forum and need some guidance. I've been doing my research but still have some questions. I want to be as safe as i can while running my cycle. My goal is to gain at least 10-15lbs while slimming up a lil.
This is what my cycle looks like.
2 Week AI Cycle Support
AI Cycle Support
Should I use Aromasin throughout my cycle and during PCT?
What should I use for my libido once I finish my cycle?
- 01-14-2011, 03:14 AM
What's the drug profile of trenadrol ? Havoc is good old epi and if trenadrol stands up to something like Tren Xtreme than that is a very good but potent stackEat clean, piss dirty
- 01-14-2011, 10:26 PM
01-15-2011, 07:23 AM
01-15-2011, 11:10 PM
is this your first cycle? I would avoid havoc and go with good ol test e. Havoc gives you a higher chance of getting gyno
01-17-2011, 01:50 AM
This is my 2nd. My first cycle was Mathasadrol. I was young and stupid and didn't do my research. I got good gains, but messed up on my PCT. I've been reading up on this Havoc/Tren combo and I've heard real good things. I just wanted to get some input.
01-17-2011, 02:24 AM
I've done it , it's a great stack! Man I wish I could find me some more legit trenadrol. No other oral tren compared!
01-17-2011, 03:59 AM
01-18-2011, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the replies fellas. But can you tell me if my PCT looks ok? and do you see any real benefit of taking Aromasin during my cycle?
01-18-2011, 06:54 PM
01-18-2011, 07:29 PM
01-19-2011, 01:44 AM
PCT I would suggest Clomid instead of Nolva for Tren based products. What does your bottle say on the trenadrol? 3mg servings or 30mg? I've ran the 30mg twice which I believe is the newest of the two and better. If I were you I'd see if you cant score some extra trenadrol and stretch your cycle out to 6 weeks, and use the havoc for the last four. Trenadrol's sweet spot I found to be around week 4 or 5, and the second time I was running it at 90mg a day starting week 3 and still it kicked in on week 4 as far as size gains go.
Also, if you're gonna run clomid instead of nolva (which I highly suggest) make sure you taper down to a low dose your last couple weeks so you don't have a gyno problem post cycle, as trenadrol will do this to you.
You could run the aromasin at real low dose on cycle, but if I were you I would only run it thru the second half of your cycle. I've never used it, used a transdermal AI instead which did wonders.
I might have some leftover Trenadrol in my cupboard
01-19-2011, 09:05 PM
Thanks FL3X for all that information. But I have a couple of questions. Why do u suggest Clomid over Nova? All the research I did lead me to belive that Nova was better. Also what is an "transdermal AI"? What is the difference between that and Aromasin?
So if I went with the 6 week it would look like this?
01-19-2011, 09:19 PM
01-27-2011, 11:08 PM
[QUOTE=bashman;2721734]Jesus how much of that was lean gains?[/QUOTE
around half, I ate everything in front of my face and stopped doing cardio all together. about 6 months after the cycle I still had about 15lbs of the 30. I honestly think I could have kept more buuuuttt I wasn't exactly well schooled on PCT, and I went with over the counter. Not the best decision but a learning experience.
02-06-2011, 11:53 PM
02-07-2011, 01:14 AM
I take 12 caps fish oil, 1.6g Cissus X 2 ED am pm and also Animal Flex ED
The Animal Flex is a great product and i started using after running this stack in the form of a PH known as Spawn epi/tren great cycle but joints were really sore after 3 weeks of Flex fixed this and now I take all year round with Cissus and fish-oil
U can get if for as cheap as $19.99 for 44 day supply check out the product profile
Eat clean, piss dirty
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