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Can you pin AAS in fat?

  1.  01-10-2011  06:22 PM
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    Can you pin AAS in fat?


    using a slin syringe pining in ur stomach? would that work just as fine as injecting in muscle? ofcourse having an oil that dosent take 20min to go thru the slin pin.



    just wondering. and yes, i do inject in muscles.



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    Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    using a slin syringe pining in ur stomach? would that work just as fine as injecting in muscle? ofcourse having an oil that dosent take 20min to go thru the slin pin.

    just wondering. and yes, i do inject in muscles.
    The answer is yes, but... I hit my wife with .10cc Mast every week. I inject her with a slin pin under the skin. It takes maybe 10 minutes to draw .10cc. Unlike water, even .10cc comes our slowly. When the buzz was doing subQ over IM, I did some research and to my surprise found that the doc's often recommend it. So I tried 1cc, drawn in a 3mL syringe and injected with a 25ga needle. I stayed subQ. It hurt going in and I had to find another location after 1/2cc. The injection sites burned, itched and remained reddened for about 24hours. So I can say from experience that 1cc of oil injected subQ is not easy way to adminiter test.

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    The answer is yes, but... I hit my wife with .10cc Mast every week. I inject her with a slin pin under the skin. It takes maybe 10 minutes to draw .10cc. Unlike water, even .10cc comes our slowly. When the buzz was doing subQ over IM, I did some research and to my surprise found that the doc's often recommend it. So I tried 1cc, drawn in a 3mL syringe and injected with a 25ga needle. I stayed subQ. It hurt going in and I had to find another location after 1/2cc. The injection sites burned, itched and remained reddened for about 24hours. So I can say from experience that 1cc of oil injected subQ is not easy way to adminiter test.
    thats wat i was thinking. ud prob have to inject 1/2cc at onces and go in a different spot.

    but my tru question is- would sub Q be just as effective as IM?

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    Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    thats wat i was thinking. ud prob have to inject 1/2cc at onces and go in a different spot.

    but my tru question is- would sub Q be just as effective as IM?
    According to the docs, it may be more effective. I don't know if I believe that though. Their theory is that it will be absorbed more evenly and keep your levels more constant. I could test it out and know for sure, but I don't really care enough to put that kind of time and money into it. Unless someone has actually done empirical tests, then all you're going to get is opinion. My opinion isn't worth the virtual paper this is written on, but I'm sticking with IM.

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    According to the docs, it may be more effective. I don't know if I believe that though. Their theory is that it will be absorbed more evenly and keep your levels more constant. I could test it out and know for sure, but I don't really care enough to put that kind of time and money into it. Unless someone has actually done empirical tests, then all you're going to get is opinion. My opinion isn't worth the virtual paper this is written on, but I'm sticking with IM.
    well ill do a log. test/tren ace and imma shoot it in my stomach/chest/arms. the log will be up soon.

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    Sub-q has been studied and is being prescribed more often. In one study the weekly doses were cut in half due to the higher blood levels it produces.

    http://ipac.kacst.edu.sa/eDoc/2006/161440_1.pdf

    I've done it but no more than .5cc at once. It takes a really long time to draw too.
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    Originally Posted by bad rad View Post
    Sub-q has been studied and is being prescribed more often. In one study the weekly doses were cut in half due to the higher blood levels it produces.

    http://ipac.kacst.edu.sa/eDoc/2006/161440_1.pdf

    I've done it but no more than .5cc at once. It takes a really long time to draw too.
    That's wild man.

    What about test suspension? That's water based and therefore sub-q right? Or am I wrong on both accounts?

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    Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    That's wild man.

    What about test suspension? That's water based and therefore sub-q right? Or am I wrong on both accounts?
    I wouldn't pin anything water-based sub-q. Most bodyfat has a poor blood supply and relies on the lymph system for circulation, because of this you what an oil based Test.
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    Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    using a slin syringe pining in ur stomach? would that work just as fine as injecting in muscle? ofcourse having an oil that dosent take 20min to go thru the slin pin.



    just wondering. and yes, i do inject in muscles.
    I dont get why you would want to.. Its absorbed better IM.

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    Can anyone here go back and forth from nmol/l to ng/dl?

    That study is pretty convincing.

    Guys were pinning .5ml of test a week and getting 21.65 +or- 7ish total test. They were hypogonadal.

    They also reported it as less painful and more safe.

    What if you were to pin .5ml of test subQ 4 times a week. Assuming the test is 250mg/ml you could hit 500mg subQ...

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    Here's the conversion, in this case it should be nmol/L /(.0347)= ng/dL.

    Testosterone ng/dL x 0.0347=nmol/L

    One guy got mid 600's using 25mg TE sub-q, that's impressive.
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    Originally Posted by bad rad View Post
    Here's the conversion, in this case it should be nmol/L /(.0347)= ng/dL.

    Testosterone ng/dL x 0.0347=nmol/L

    One guy got mid 600's using 25mg TE sub-q, that's impressive.
    Wow bro... I have some test for my next cycle but no pins. I have slins.

    Maybe I should test it out. I don't mind being on test for a month subQ .5ml injections 4x a week and then going to get a blood test after 4 weeks.

    The thing is blood test results usually cap out at a limit on testosterone. So I won't know exactly how high it will be.

    Any way around this? To figure out my true numbers?

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    I've read it takes longer to breakdown and enter the blood stream.
    It's possible though.

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    Originally Posted by CCV3 View Post
    I've read it takes longer to breakdown and enter the blood stream.
    It's possible though.
    so using a short ester like test prop and tren ace would be pointless since it would take longer to kick in?

    ****. i ordered 100 slin pins already.

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    I don't think it is pointless.

    The study shows it is an effective way to administer.

    I didn't realize you say you would run a log GLHF. I am damn interested.

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    Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    I don't think it is pointless.

    The study shows it is an effective way to administer.

    I didn't realize you say you would run a log GLHF. I am damn interested.
    i am but now i dont know if i wanna go subq. i ordered 100 slin pins last night after i saw all the responses saying yes its possible and now CCV3 saying its possible but it would take longer to brake down. therfor defeating the purpose of using the short esters i want - test prop, tren ace.

    soooo idk wat to do right now.

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    Up to you bro. Maybe the other guys can chime in about that.

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    Well because I did it on accident once.
    I was hitting my left glute with my left hand (hard for me) and I swear the thing went in at a 45 degree angle, so I just figured I injected into fat.

    I started googling "accidentally injected into fat" or "what happens if you inject steroids into fat" and every one was saying it works but it takes longer to hit your blood. So I asked a doctor/client and he said that it does take longer for your body to break it down.

    I've read some posts where people claim it's the same thing, never anything about it being faster.

    Save the pins for your hcg or hgh.

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    Originally Posted by CCV3 View Post
    Well because I did it on accident once.
    I was hitting my left glute with my left hand (hard for me) and I swear the thing went in at a 45 degree angle, so I just figured I injected into fat.

    I started googling "accidentally injected into fat" or "what happens if you inject steroids into fat" and every one was saying it works but it takes longer to hit your blood. So I asked a doctor/client and he said that it does take longer for your body to break it down.

    I've read some posts where people claim it's the same thing, never anything about it being faster.

    Save the pins for your hcg or hgh.
    I think it's a misconception that injecting into fat is going to automatically mean slower absorption. We're trying to figure in this thread if, in fact, it really IS a misconception (through sciencey things lol) or if it shouldn't be done for the reasons above.

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    Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    I think it's a misconception that injecting into fat is going to automatically mean slower absorption. We're trying to figure in this thread if, in fact, it really IS a misconception (through sciencey things lol) or if it shouldn't be done for the reasons above.
    Ya I'm pretty much going off of "that's what everyone else says". I trust my doctor, but I would have to assume he goes off of what was told to him as well.

    Looking online at other boards, almost every person who comments on it claims it takes longer to disperse through your body. Let's say they were going off the "that's what I was told" concept.

    I just find it hard to believe that it's just one big rumor that subq takes longer to disperse than IM.

    Just look at paramedics though. They are in emergency mode and time counts. If they can't go IV then they go IM. You never really see them pinch the patients stomach and administer sub q.

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