recovery after 10 week cycle vs 24 week+ cycle

[hungryH]

thinking of extending my cycle from 16 weeks to 22 weeks.....
will I recover, no hcg was/will be used as I cannot acquire it. clomid/nolva pct with atd

cheers

[DetroitHammer]

thinking of extending my cycle from 16 weeks to 22 weeks.....
will I recover, no hcg was/will be used as I cannot acquire it. clomid/nolva pct with atd

cheers

Some guys use Deca for 4 wks and never recover; other's use it for 20wks with no sides at all. Point is, no one can predict whether you'll recover after 16 wks or 20 wks. But doing a cycle without HCG is one way to make sure you don't recover. How far are you into your cycle? What are you taking? Is this your first? Personally, I feel that the longer you go without HCG the harder it will be for you to fully recover. Since you don't have HCG, I'd be concerned.

[hungryH]

Some guys use Deca for 4 wks and never recover; other's use it for 20wks with no sides at all. Point is, no one can predict whether you'll recover after 16 wks or 20 wks. But doing a cycle without HCG is one way to make sure you don't recover. How far are you into your cycle? What are you taking? Is this your first? Personally, I feel that the longer you go without HCG the harder it will be for you to fully recover. Since you don't have HCG, I'd be concerned.

cant get hcg because irish customs are incredibly incredibly strict, even disguised the hcg i ordered (a year ago) got seized.there is literally none I can acquire from within the country

5th cycle

im at exactly 16 weeks now, has been test, with tren ace first half and npp for the last 8 weeks. made great gains but really want to spend at least another 6 weeks cutting, cannot bear to have to finish pct before I start cutting because I have body image problems and have no sense confidence when my bodyfat is higher than Id like(but thats another issue altogether)

I guess my question is, how much harder will it be to recover from a 24 weeks cycle as opposed to a 16 weeker?

[DetroitHammer]

It will be harder; how much harder, I honestly don't know... On your last cycles, I trust you didn't have HCG but fully recovered? If you have a history of recovering after a cycle without HCG, then your odds are better than most and you're lucky. Extending your cycle another two months will be pushing your luck. My advice, whatever it's worth, is to go for it and be prepared for TRT if need be. If you're not ready for TRT, then you wouldn't be messing with AAS in the first place, so go for it.

[GLHF]

if ur gonna go ahead and do a 24 weeker without HCG than unlease switch to short esters at week 16. this way you can stop whenever you want and start pcting only a few days after last pin.

using enatate for 10weeks means youll be really using it for 12.

[hungryH]

im using test prop as a base so yeah

and Im lucky? most users dont know what hcg is lol

[hungryH]

i guess the point of this thread was to see if anyone has recovered successfully after long cycles with no hcg

[DetroitHammer]

i guess the point of this thread was to see if anyone has recovered successfully after long cycles with no hcg

But if they did, it doesn't mean you will. Your point was not missed. You're looking for someone to say they had no problems after 24 weeks so you can proceed with some degree of comfort. Fact remains, no matter what anyone else might have experienced, you're in unchartered waters concerning your own body. I'm not totally surprised that you can't get HCG, but find it difficult to believe that many have not heard of it...Back in the 70's guys like Arnold popped Dbol like candy and didn't know what "cycling" meant. He apparently recovered. HCG will help you recover for sure but that doesn't mean you won't recover without it.

[LiveNDie]

Bad idea, besides recovery theres down regulation and cortisol.

[trippn]

cant get hcg because irish customs are incredibly incredibly strict, even disguised the hcg i ordered (a year ago) got seized.there is literally none I can acquire from within the country

You could always visit a doctor and tell him/her what you are doing. Doctors can prescribe hcg. At least they can in the U.S., not sure bout Ireland. Either way, the doc could help you.

[brownchoclit]

probably a bad idea without the hcg bro. i'd stop the cycle as planned.

[CCV3]

Get some HCG.
You now have x more weeks to do so.

Your nuts are going to need a serious kicks start after that long.
I wouldn't do more than 12 weeks without HCG.

Then again I have never done a cycle without HCG in my PCT.

[GLHF]

OP...i dnt no what recover means.
ull recover obviusly...u wouldnt die from that cycle. but how hard would u b able to get? and for how long u gona stay hard for? damage to ur semen? perma damage to ur semen?


do I think ur gona be fine? yes. ive seen people do dumber things and end up fine.

1-16 test
16-24 mast and winstrol

dnt keep taking test the entire time.


holy **** before people start jumping on that last sentence....U DONT NEED TEST IN A CYCLE. in most cycles you do, but if u take mast or EQ than u dont need test and especially if ur cutting.

[CCV3]

^^^

Co-Sign

You will eventually recover, but I wouldn't risk it.

Also, it's OK to get off test. Give it a good 8 weeks for your receptors to reset. Bridge with something else, then hop back on. No need to hit 20+ weeks straight unless you are cruising...

[hungryH]

OP...i dnt no what recover means.
ull recover obviusly...u wouldnt die from that cycle. but how hard would u b able to get? and for how long u gona stay hard for? damage to ur semen? perma damage to ur semen?


do I think ur gona be fine? yes. ive seen people do dumber things and end up fine.

1-16 test
16-24 mast and winstrol

dnt keep taking test the entire time.


holy **** before people start jumping on that last sentence....U DONT NEED TEST IN A CYCLE. in most cycles you do, but if u take mast or EQ than u dont need test and especially if ur cutting.

dude I agree that test isnt needed, done testless cycles myself(cutting mostly, for appetite reasons)

so how was pct after that cycle?did you feel alright and lose much mass/strength? how was libido

[Jstrong20]

I personally wouldn't worry about a 20 week cycle but thats just me.

[Noumenon]

I would get off of it just to be safe, unless you have some sort of reason to get big asap. Don't risk your health for the sake of vanity.

[GLHF]

OP its winter time...just come off as planned. try keeping most gains. wear a sweatshirt to hide the bloat. try gaining some more size. and than guess what? once april hits, get on that mast. sounds like a plan?

[slacker86]

24 weeks on without hcg and wanting to pct and not lose muscle is going to be rather difficult. if you want to run this long you really have to look at HRT/TRT being a good possibility in your life or having a really ****ty 2 months trying to get your natty test levels back maybe even longer..I have known guys who have run very high doseages for multiple years and recovered, however none of them recovered in under a year and it was a very long and hard proccess for all of them.

[bad rad]

thinking of extending my cycle from 16 weeks to 22 weeks.....
will I recover, no hcg was/will be used as I cannot acquire it. clomid/nolva pct with atd

cheers

Your LH will probably recover quickly but the long inactivity will keep the testes dormant for a long time. Anabolics 2007 has a study showing ~5 weeks to recover LH but 10+ to recover test levels. The part to gleam from the study was not waking the boys, ie HCG will hamper recovery even using PCT drugs since they only stimulate LH/FSH output sooner but do nothing to address the comatose testes.