Nolva vs adex for on cycle estro.
- 12-06-2010, 02:58 PM
- 12-06-2010, 03:54 PM
I say adex, less toxic than nolva from what I've read. Save nolva for PCT.
- 12-07-2010, 12:24 PM
12-07-2010, 12:47 PM
12-07-2010, 01:55 PM
Isn't an AI like arimidex going to detract from gains? I thought that Arimidex stops ALL conversion to estrogen, but aren't you going to need some estrogen?
I have a lot to learn, that's why I'm a member here on AM and I had a similar question.
12-07-2010, 02:07 PM
An AI or SERM should not be used on cycle unless needed in my opinion. Having estrogen helps you to make more gains.
12-07-2010, 02:09 PM
12-07-2010, 06:42 PM
def adex imo as the others suggested - make sure you have it on hand its true you only want to use it if needed....as soon as your nipples feel extra sensitive or start to look puffy you want that adex ready to go...and you find the dosage that works best for you...some don't need it at all...i personally find twice a week at .50 (mon/thurs) with my shots works perfectly , but everyone is different
12-07-2010, 06:55 PM
12-07-2010, 11:29 PM
I don't know a whole lot about HCG, but from what I've heard, it's a must have to keep the most out of your cycle. correct?
12-08-2010, 06:41 PM
Basically the cycle will be
test: 500mg EW, maybe bump to 625
eq: 600mg EW
dbol: kickstart with 50mg ED
maybe a oral winny finisher
So, should I not use the ai at all unless I 'need' it and just keep it on hand?
12-08-2010, 08:10 PM
Go with an AI if symptoms arise, keep Nolva for PCT. Nolvadex acts similer to estrogen in the body so i would think it wouldnt help bloat, it may even enhance it. That is strictly my opinion and bro science but it seems logical. Some good natural diuretic herbs will help with water weight too and are not hard on the body.
12-08-2010, 11:32 PM
12-11-2010, 07:29 PM
I have good results with adex e3d. I am gyno prone. Do not use an ai on cycle unless absolutely necessary. Hcg is also a must for every cycle and if not on cycle then for pct. I previously always used pct but it is better used on cycle which I was convinced by a member here. I would save the nolva for pct. I don't think adex e3d will stop gains,actually I know it won't. Just keep estro in check, but only if u have problems from it. I use it for gyno control and gain just fine.
12-11-2010, 11:23 PM
Not sure why everyone is advising against using an AI, better to use a low dose every few days and keep it in check than waiting for gyno symptoms. Plus it's a total crock IMO that adex hinders gains. Might hinder fat storage and water retention but that's it. Nolva on the other hand decreases igf and does have a neg effect from my experience
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