I plan on starting my test e and deca cycle and had everything straight but recently heard something different. Would I be better to use an AI on cycle or a SERM to minimize the chances of side effects from the deca.
I always figured the AI was the way to go. Since it is estrogen that is needed for progest side effects to occur. But recently a friend who competes and knows others with more knowledge on subject said a serm was better to use oncycle. But this makes no sense to me because that would just protect against estrogen sides.
Give me some insight here guys...
Ohh yeah will be starting test e at 500/wk working up to 650 and deca at 400 for 15 wks.
Yeah that was the org plan but started talking to my friend and he and the guy that helps him were all about using tamox on and then off cycle. And I started to question what I thought was right after that.
Dostinex and low dose letro have always worked wonders for NPP/Tren for me.
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Ive used tamox while on because I got way too bloated for my liking and it started to help shed the water. That, dandelion root, and winny.
Not saying thats the perfect mixture or anything. Just saying that did enough for me.
You didnt really mention which side you are trying to avoid, so I'm just assuming its the bloat.
yeah sorry guys was meaning bloat and gyno... mainly gyno issues
For me, the combo of Deca, P5P (around 50mg) and an additional 300mg of B6 keeps anything resembling side effects at bay.
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I'm in the same boat and I'm ging to run it without AI and keep nolva on hand. Ran test and dbal without deca no problems. I'm going to run only 500/300 though
I remember a post back in the past that you were taking a combo of deprenyl and welbutrin. Do you think this has a synergistic effect in your case with the P5P + B6 in lowering prolactin/sides?
Around week 5-6 is when deca sides started hitting me (no gyno though). I've done a lower amount in the past, 150mg week, but this time on 300-400mg per week. Caber hasn't had the effects I've been expecting from it in terms of refractory period/libido. Libido was insane for the first 4-5 weeks, thanks to the sust + t-cream (= instant raise in T-levels, no waiting around). But now the deca is dampening things.