how long to run test e
- 03-10-2010, 07:15 PM
- 03-10-2010, 07:22 PM
10-12 weeks, 400mg is fine, but 500mg would be better.
there is no HCG in pill form...
and HCG isnt even needed for this cycle
03-10-2010, 07:48 PM
03-10-2010, 08:46 PM
I'm a fan of running test E or C for a longer amount of time. Like around 16-20 weeks. The reason for me is it takes close to 5 weeks for me to really start to get the full fx of test e.
HCG is really up to you. Some people just feel better running the hcg. On a test only cycle you should not need it, but everyone is different. It is really up to you.
ps. never heard of a pill form of hcg either.
03-10-2010, 08:54 PM
03-10-2010, 10:41 PM
How would testicular atrophy be on this cycle? I've found if the boys stay around I never have any cycle problems. Anythig else I can use besides hcg
03-10-2010, 10:58 PM
03-11-2010, 12:32 AM
03-11-2010, 01:01 PM
03-11-2010, 01:07 PM
So I guess hcg isn't needed??? How would I dose the serm, I know pct starts 2 weeks after your last shot. I would want to run clomid to get my
htpa going again and if nessary put nolva in somewhere
03-11-2010, 03:31 PM
03-11-2010, 03:44 PM
03-11-2010, 03:52 PM
03-11-2010, 04:22 PM
03-11-2010, 04:27 PM
03-11-2010, 04:40 PM
but lately too many ppl are coming to the conclusion that HCG is a MUUUUUUST with every cycle which IMO is complete bullsh!t and its starting to get a little out of control.
and the bad part is that lately the ppl saying "get hcg", "u need hcg", "wheres the hcg in ur cycle" are the ones with no experience with it and are just repeating what theyve read maybe once.
03-11-2010, 04:47 PM
03-11-2010, 05:38 PM
agreed. for sh1ts and giggles, after reading a thread about pct on another forum i decided not to do much of any pct after my last cycle (i had letro on hand and i had to use it a bit because dbol gave me a gyno flare up). So after a cycle consisting of test, tren and dbol i did practically no pct, and aside for a week with a little trouble getting my d1ck up i recovered fine. i even got bloodwork done and it showed i was ok. So i dont necessarily believe all of this bro-science. you can do pct to be safe but if its actually required...thats up to debate.
03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
03-11-2010, 05:56 PM
03-11-2010, 06:08 PM
Ok.. I think this is the best starter injectable cycle I can run from
what I've researched. Anyone else agree
03-11-2010, 06:12 PM
Only other good starter injectible option is to run test prop for 8-10 weeks, at 350 a week as 100mg EOD. The plus is that you'll see gains by week 2 or so, the minus is its every other day injections and so you'll have to rotate sites more.
03-11-2010, 06:12 PM
03-11-2010, 06:16 PM
03-11-2010, 06:22 PM
test E at 400-500mg a week is a good first injectable cycle. i also agree with the suggestion to run test prop at 100mg eod. if youre one of the few people who gets nasty side effects, the prop will clear your system faster, thus getting rid of the sides faster. the EOD injections are a pain in the ass, especially during a longer cycle but it is another option. plus per 100mg of test P you get more test than if you ran 100mg of test E
03-11-2010, 07:17 PM
03-11-2010, 08:59 PM
03-13-2010, 10:06 PM
03-14-2010, 12:11 AM
Hey bro.ouch dude, even tho they are small needles. i just figured one shot a week is just alot simpler, and alot less painful. Id rather take one big shot instead of a bunch of em. im getting the test with nolva and clomid somethime soon. Hope everything works out good
You might want to reconsider the once a week shot for a few reasons. The 1st being even if your test is 250-300 mg/ml that is still 2ml or more per shot, and only doing it once a week your muscles will take awhile to get use to it.
IE, you pin your glutes or quads don't plan on walking to much or leg workouts for awhile. You will be hoping around like frankinstein. Also, you would not want to try to put that into your delts or other smaller muscle groups at that volume. The oil will leak out of the muscle, and cause some pain as well.
But the real biggie about once a week in high volume even with test E or Test C is there will be more spikes in your blood levels, which could lead to unwanted sides. Bro X2 a week, 1ml each time with E or C would be alot better. Trust me.
Also, Necroticism: Please take the lab name out of your post!
03-15-2010, 03:55 PM
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