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    1st inj. cycle


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    front load week1 1000mg
    week2 750mg
    week3-12 500mg
    21days after last inj.
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    i have liquiddex on hand. i was thinking about running 6 bromo last 2 weeks ofpct for 4 weeks at50mg/50/25/25with the other stuff.taking cee and hemo rage,bp supp through out. any thing else no hcg no fridge for it
    4000cal. per day 400gr protien 200 carbs 85g fat eating lean like always

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    rest day today **** hurts like hell.
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    Wow, raise the carbs dude, even if you have to drop about 50 grams of protein...
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    Wow thats a lot of sauce for a first cycle, I think youd be fine 300-400mgs for a first cycle IME. GL tho
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    i am uping carbs by 100. i would like to lose some faton this but will see
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    chest day today went ok felt abit week inj. site killing me
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    After the first inject it gets alot better from there, IE not nearly as sore or swollen. depending on where you injected, it will mess with your training for a while.
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    i agree, seemed liek after i hit every site 2 times or so, it was all gravy
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    I dont know if I want to chance the trap injection again though haha, its now getting better after a week.. Think I will just stick with my glutes ...
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    Just FYI, your cals dont equal your break down for protien/carbs/fat... but whatever. You should still up your carbs. If you eat clean (no macdonalds) you will still be able to loose fat.

    I have never heard of frontloading the inj like that. I usually see an oral used for that and then up the oil as your body gets used to it. Your body will slowly reduce the amount of test you make so to compensate, you shoot more into your body.

    Also, do not only shoot in the glutes... you will get huge knots in your ass from that. There are so many other sites to use. I find the outter quad, delts and calfs to be just as painless as glutes. I shot up in the bicept once... and only once.... I have often thought about the lats... anyone else do lats? the traps kind of freak me out... too close to my neck I guess.

    anyway, good luck on that. Try to post some before and after if you get a chance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    After the first inject it gets alot better from there, IE not nearly as sore or swollen. depending on where you injected, it will mess with your training for a while.
    yeah I would have to adjust my training schedule like if i injected in a quad muscle I would lift that muscle before my usual legs day just so I wasn't half paralyzed during the day I was actually supposed to lift legs.
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    I would not worry about the frontload.... I would just save the test ud be usin for the frontload for another couple weeks at the end. It will kick soon enough just run it longer than 12 wks. maybe 15
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    Its very hard to gain muscle and lose fat during that same period because one you are eating more to supply your muscles to grow=weight gain. Two you eat less to use up stored fat=weight loss reduction of BF%. I not saying it cant be done it is very hard to do and you might end up in the middle not losing what you think you should and not gaining the muscle you think you should...just my two cents I would concentrate on one or the other.
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    ya i said the hell with loosing the fat ill do it after. i did quads and bis to day. it was a great work out the pump was crazy
    squat-135/15
    225/12
    275/10
    275/10
    315/8
    225/12
    135/15
    single leg ext 5sets
    sumo leg press 5sets to scared to lung this week o well
    calves 10/set
    bi db curl 30/15
    45/12
    50/10
    55/8
    70/4cheat
    one arm preacher 50/10/4sets
    incline curl 30/10/4sets
    hammer 45/10/4sets drop set last
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    Quote Originally Posted by illgixxer View Post
    yeah I would have to adjust my training schedule like if i injected in a quad muscle I would lift that muscle before my usual legs day just so I wasn't half paralyzed during the day I was actually supposed to lift legs.
    I do my leg day on the day I inject my quads or glutes. I dont get sore until the night of injection...
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    i feel great.did shoulders/traps
    military press-95/15
    135/12
    155/10
    165/10
    185/6
    one arm db press 50/10/4
    bent over rear delts 25/10/4
    lat raises 40/10/4drop20burn out
    traps straight bar shrugs 225/12/5
    smith behind back 225/10/4
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    One gram of sust in the first week of a first cycle?
    You must be in some pain from those injects dude.
    You go thru with the full gram?
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    ya pain was nasty for 4 days did squats 3rd day
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    work outs are good energy is great did hams/tris yesterday and back to day felt strong
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    today is an rest day i feel good up 3 pounds
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    whats your water intake like? I would drink 3/4 to 1 gallon a day...some time only a 1/2 gal. your still not getting the full amount of test yet it too early to release yet. what you are experiencing is the prop which is the smallest amount of test in your shot wait till week 3 to 4 and the aggression in the gym, strength, and endurance will be night and day
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    cool i feel great getting stronger hungry as hell upped cals i dont know how high. it was around 4000 on the diet tracker .i put a chicken sandwich in there not the cleanest but ha it will work started 10mg of nolva left nip pain for m-drol. small bump.
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    i drink a **** load of water 1-2 gal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilc530 View Post
    i drink a **** load of water 1-2 gal.
    the more the better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    the more the better!
    Ya, and the more times I have to get out of bed at nice to take a minute long piss lmao...
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    ha i piss like 2 or 3 times at night but im use to it. work out went good did back today
    pull ups wide grip 4/10
    bent over rows 4/10 135-205
    db rows 4/10/75ilb
    cable rows 4/10
    back ext. 4/10
    good mornings 4/10
    i do deads every other week
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    rest day today. slept like 11 hours now ill be tired all day chest tomorrow
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    did chest/calves today felt great my reps went up by 3-4 on everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilc530 View Post
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    front load week1 1000mg
    week2 750mg
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    21days after last inj.
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    4000cal. per day 400gr protien 200 carbs 85g fat eating lean like always

    You dosing sust once EW?
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    no 2 times a week
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    work outs are good i am setting pr all ready i still have pain in left nip dosing nolva at 15mg day should i start some armadex or just keep dosing the nolva any help would be good
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    Quote Originally Posted by evilc530 View Post
    work outs are good i am setting pr all ready i still have pain in left nip dosing nolva at 15mg day should i start some armadex or just keep dosing the nolva any help would be good
    armadex or arimidex?....this an OCT product?...if so then stick with the nolva
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    Get some adex or topical formestane if you have to...
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    rest day today feel good
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    no its liquidex
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    rest day to day i am getting stronger 5-6 reps on every thing4ilb weight gain using the diet tracker
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    did chest today went good strength is up. i stoped nolva the liquidex seems to be working .5 every 3 days lumps are about gone.little sore but not bad
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    hitting pr on all lifts. i hurt my back at work i dont think to bad hopfully. did inject yesterday and went through a vain blood was every were. i got a big bruise on my leg it should be ok i think
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