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    Andropen 275 kickstarted with x-tren


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    training 5 years
    diet intake for this cycle 3515calories/351 protein/263g carbs/117 fats
    Goal 20-25lbs keep at least 15-20 after pct

    Support supps for the first 4 weeks: 2 week pre-load
    Liv-52 (discontinued after 4 week x-tren)
    HAwthorn extract(through cycle)
    fish-oil

    I'll be running Andropen 275 injections Monday thursday for 10 weeks with x-tren to kick start the first four weeks 90/90/90/90.

    PCT: I'll begin my pct 18 days after last inject.
    Nolva 40/20/20/10/10
    AI Stoked / 4/ 4 / 4 /4
    clomid if neede but not on hand first 3 days 100/50/50/25/25

    I am unable to run hcg during cycle to not having a source. And im able to get clomid but never used before for pct i used nolva for every ph cycle pct.
    Would i benifit from using and Otc Ai on cycle like Formastane gel on cycle to keep estro under control seeing that x-tren could cause gyno. NOTE ive ran x-tren in SUS-500 sus-lmg and used nolva for pct no gyno from past history.

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    alot of views but no replys somebody anybody are u out there lol
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    OTC AI like formestane is good enough IMO.. You call the tren a kickstart, yet andropen has fast acting esters; meaning you will feel the test right away anyways. Andropen is superior to sustanon IMO...
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    looks fine. if uve had success with nolva in the past then stick with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    OTC AI like formestane is good enough IMO.. You call the tren a kickstart, yet andropen has fast acting esters; meaning you will feel the test right away anyways. Andropen is superior to sustanon IMO...
    would it be a waste for me to use the x-tren for a kickstart most phs kick in by the ending of the frst week for me. do u think im better off running andropen solo i heard mix reviews that it wont kick in to ending of 4 weeks i would like to take full advantage if im going to be shutdown i might as well go all the way with the gains being my first aas cycle
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    anybody???thinks x-tren for the first 4 weeks not a good idea?
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    run the "tren" the first 4 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    run the "tren" the first 4 weeks
    thanx countdown begins soon just pre-loading supports know looks like im going for broke. here we go
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    Your still going to feel the test by the end of the first week is all I was saying.. And even though the short acting esters arent as dominant as the longer acting ester in that compound, I believe it would be more prominent than the tren.. IMO. Sure, run the tren, just saying its not really needed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Your still going to feel the test by the end of the first week is all I was saying.. And even though the short acting esters arent as dominant as the longer acting ester in that compound, I believe it would be more prominent than the tren.. IMO. Sure, run the tren, just saying its not really needed..
    no problem bro i just keep debating with myself actually but i just want to get a real good run. this being my firstHowz your run going? keep us updated
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    to run otc formastane on cycle how would it be run according to recommended directions. but at what part of cycle all the way through? bottle says not to run more than a month. would Anastrozole Arimadex be ideal i can get pretty sure but what would be the dosage and time intake on cycle?anyone Thanx
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Your still going to feel the test by the end of the first week is all I was saying.. And even though the short acting esters arent as dominant as the longer acting ester in that compound, I believe it would be more prominent than the tren.. IMO. Sure, run the tren, just saying its not really needed..
    man ive heard of the test flu before but anybody get it personally here? i felt a little tired this week but not sick the day after my first inject i feel common cold like symtoms. should i take a few days off or train through it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamer2be08 View Post
    Your still going to feel the test by the end of the first week is all I was saying.. And even though the short acting esters arent as dominant as the longer acting ester in that compound, I believe it would be more prominent than the tren.. IMO. Sure, run the tren, just saying its not really needed..
    bump anybody out there? this may sound retarded but i decided to throw the tren in after my second pin im currently on my 4th pin so u could say ending my second week on andropen and 1st on tren im up 5lbs. probally due to upping food intake the pins dont make me feel as sick anymore i feel great but more horny than a rabbit
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    yah i got the test flue before it sucks i was shooting way to much test and got flue like symptoms from it just ease down on the test
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    How did this cycle work out for you? I am 2 weeks into an Andropen/EQ cycle. Nervous b/c of all the **** I hear about fake BD gear.
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    You say it can also cause gyno.. why bother. Andropen is faster Sustanon. WILL BE KICKING IN HARD BY 2ND WEEK. You need something that is dominant anabolic.. boost recovery and will harden you up and help with estrogen. An oral will clear faster since andropen won't linger too long you need something that will clear fast also. Start PCT.
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    I'm just on a TRT dose now. At 43 years old things are slowing down. Not that I need Viagra, but it's the other things I've been having issues with. Energy, sleep etc.
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    I'm just on a TRT dose now. At 43 years old things are slowing down. Not that I need Viagra, but it's the other things I've been having issues with. Energy, sleep etc. 100mgs andropen/week for now. Labs in a few weeks will tell me where we're at. Been hearing about guys using just plain DHEA to fine tune it. Orally taken with fats and some grapefruit juice will boost absorption and bioavailability. I have some homemade topical DHEA but it's supposed to be better orally. 2 weeks in and things are great. Energy, appetite sex drive and general well being is all improved. Feeling motivated also. I've stacked on Sustanon with ED and got big and strong and ripped. They are both slow acting. Injected 1 every 10 days, alternating so I was injecting every 5 days so peaks were staggered. Back then PCT was HCG for 2 wks and work through it.
  

  
 

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