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  1.  11-26-2009  06:12 PM
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    Have you heard of this?


    I am currently researcing information and all the things needed to know to run a cycle of test e or c..whichever I decide I want to run, and a friend of mine proposed an idea to me I never heard

    Instead of pinning twice a week for 2 weeks (500mg/week)
    He suggested pinning every 3rd day and this apparently equals out to 8 weeks...yet this seems to contradict all that I know now.

    Does this method make sense to you guys because it doesn't to me, and he seems to be pretty knowledgable, I mean I would like to have his physique haha.

    He also said a first timer shouldn't go to 12 weeks because I would need to buy another vial and it wont give me much more gains....



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    if u have 2 10ml vials dosed @ 250mg/ml.....then run 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

    perfect first cycle...nice and simple

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  3.  11-26-2009  06:27 PM
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    Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    if u have 2 10ml vials dosed @ 250mg/ml.....then run 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

    perfect first cycle...nice and simple
    This is what I was thinking...this is what I want to do as a matter of fact.
    He said to do this or the 8 week every 3rd day method...but it struck me as strange so I wanted to ask about it.

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    Originally Posted by Diesel Dan View Post
    This is what I was thinking...this is what I want to do as a matter of fact.
    He said to do this or the 8 week every 3rd day method...but it struck me as strange so I wanted to ask about it.
    no need to run over 500mg/week for a first cycle

  5.  11-26-2009  10:35 PM
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    Originally Posted by Diesel Dan View Post
    This is what I was thinking...this is what I want to do as a matter of fact.
    He said to do this or the 8 week every 3rd day method...but it struck me as strange so I wanted to ask about it.
    8 weeks sucks.With enanthate or cyp, it takes 4 weeks before you see any effects and if you run 12 weeks, you just doubled your time with results (8weeks of results). what I do is shoot Friday night and Tuesday morning. 168 hours in a week, shoot 1 cc every 84 hours.
    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

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    I prefer test cyp and doesn't take 4 weeks for me to feel it, I usually frontload it a bit though, 500mg of test for 8-10 weeks would be a good beginner cycle though, make sure you get HCG and your PCT all lined up man.

  7.  11-27-2009  05:29 PM
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    If you're gonna juice and shut down your body's test production for a while, you might as well get as much as you can out of it. 8 weeks of a long ester test is a waste of time, you'll get much better gains by extending it a couple weeks, first cycle or not.
    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

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    Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    If you're gonna juice and shut down your body's test production for a while, you might as well get as much as you can out of it. 8 weeks of a long ester test is a waste of time, you'll get much better gains by extending it a couple weeks, first cycle or not.
    Yeah I am going to run with twice a week of 250 mg but for 10 or 12 I am not sure yet. some people say 12 because it is typical length for a cycle and some say 10 for beginner..

  9.  11-28-2009  11:38 AM
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    since Test E has such a long half life of 2 weeks, injecting every 3 days would bumb up the amount of test in your body more then 500mg a week. The tried and true method of one cc every 3.5 days will help keep the test in your system level and constant. Stretching it out to 12 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Like others have said, it takes about 4 weeks to notice or feel the Test working, but once you do.....look out!!! It's awesome. Make sure you have something for gyno and your PCT on hand before your first injection. Since it's your first cycle I would see how it plays out, if you are getting good gains, and no to very little sides extend it out to 12 weeks. I personally did not get any sides at all running Test E at 500mg a week for 12 weeks. Everyone reacts differently. Also remember that after your last injection, that Test E is in your system for 2 weeks. So start your PCT 2 weeks after your last injection.

  10.  11-28-2009  01:19 PM
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    Originally Posted by Wudog View Post
    since Test E has such a long half life of 2 weeks, injecting every 3 days would bumb up the amount of test in your body more then 500mg a week. The tried and true method of one cc every 3.5 days will help keep the test in your system level and constant. Stretching it out to 12 weeks shouldn't be a problem. Like others have said, it takes about 4 weeks to notice or feel the Test working, but once you do.....look out!!! It's awesome. Make sure you have something for gyno and your PCT on hand before your first injection. Since it's your first cycle I would see how it plays out, if you are getting good gains, and no to very little sides extend it out to 12 weeks. I personally did not get any sides at all running Test E at 500mg a week for 12 weeks. Everyone reacts differently. Also remember that after your last injection, that Test E is in your system for 2 weeks. So start your PCT 2 weeks after your last injection.
    One thing I am confused about..If running a cycle for 12 weeks that means your actually pinning for 10? and if runnign 10 week cycle I'm actually pinning for 8? or does 12 weeks mean injecting for 12 weeks?

  11.  11-28-2009  01:45 PM
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    Originally Posted by neverstop View Post
    I prefer test cyp and doesn't take 4 weeks for me to feel it, I usually frontload it a bit though, 500mg of test for 8-10 weeks would be a good beginner cycle though, make sure you get HCG and your PCT all lined up man.
    And I know what hcg is and why it is used/needed, but how much are you supposed to dose it at? and can it be extracted into the same syring as test or its a whole seperate process?

  12.  11-28-2009  04:32 PM
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    Originally Posted by Diesel Dan View Post
    And I know what hcg is and why it is used/needed, but how much are you supposed to dose it at? and can it be extracted into the same syring as test or its a whole seperate process?
    no, search and research!
    One thing I am confused about..If running a cycle for 12 weeks that means your actually pinning for 10? and if running 10 week cycle I'm actually pinning for 8? or does 12 weeks mean injecting for 12 weeks?
    12 weeks=24 shots dude. it's not all the way in your system weeks 1-2 and it's not out of your system weeks 12-14, so it;s a twelve weeker from week 2 to pct-week 14. Bottom line: 12 weeks = 24 shots.
    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

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    Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    no, search and research!
    12 weeks=24 shots dude. it's not all the way in your system weeks 1-2 and it's not out of your system weeks 12-14, so it;s a twelve weeker from week 2 to pct-week 14. Bottom line: 12 weeks = 24 shots.
    But PCT is not started until week 14 so why did you refer to it as PCT? I think I follow you, your wording confused me a little..that means id have to get another vial which is not cheap lol..ima go with 10 weeks and use up two 10 mL nice and even

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    Originally Posted by Diesel Dan View Post
    But PCT is not started until week 14 so why did you refer to it as PCT? I think I follow you, your wording confused me a little..that means id have to get another vial which is not cheap lol..ima go with 10 weeks and use up two 10 mL nice and even
    Because at the end of your cycle is when you start post-cycle-therapy. If $ is an issue,you might want to wait.... HCG is more $ than a bottle of test.
    Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

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    ... hcg is more money than test????? i got 10,000IU's of hcg for 50 bucks...... WHAT ARE U PAYING FOR TEST AND DO U WANT A NEW BEST FRIEND>!>!>!> lol

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    Originally Posted by Diesel Dan View Post
    One thing I am confused about..If running a cycle for 12 weeks that means your actually pinning for 10? and if runnign 10 week cycle I'm actually pinning for 8? or does 12 weeks mean injecting for 12 weeks?
    Usually cycles are ran for either 10 weeks or 15 weeks....you pin for the entire 10 or 15 weeks. You start your pct after the test is out of your system. So since test e has a half life of 2 weeks, you start your PCT 2 weeks after your last pin. It's called post cycle therapy......you do this to get your body back to normal.........So you do it AFTER your cycle is over....

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    Originally Posted by Wudog View Post
    Usually cycles are ran for either 10 weeks or 15 weeks....you pin for the entire 10 or 15 weeks. You start your pct after the test is out of your system. So since test e has a half life of 2 weeks, you start your PCT 2 weeks after your last pin. It's called post cycle therapy......you do this to get your body back to normal.........So you do it AFTER your cycle is over....

    I know what post cycle therapy is...what it is for and how it works....

    his wording confused me

  18.  11-29-2009  02:36 PM
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    Can someone post a link or infor about why to use and how to use hcg. I've searched this site and only find mention of it and that people take it. I know where it comes from but how does it keep my boys working??? Thanks for not bashing me I cannot find info here on it. And google returns just the hcg weight loss diet not how it works when on cycle.

    Thanks in advance for helping me learn teach and grow.

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    Anybody ?

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    Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    Can someone post a link or infor about why to use and how to use hcg. I've searched this site and only find mention of it and that people take it. I know where it comes from but how does it keep my boys working??? Thanks for not bashing me I cannot find info here on it. And google returns just the hcg weight loss diet not how it works when on cycle.

    Thanks in advance for helping me learn teach and grow.
    bump this for the answer..I too would like to know...and on another forum I am a member of there is not one single thread on HCG...

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