Help with first cycle

[masterdine]

This will be my first intractable cycle. I have done numerous OTC orals such as superdrol, havoc, trenadrol, DMT.

I am 5'"9' 210lbs 12-15%BF

1-10weeks
Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Equipoise 300mg/wk
10-12wk
HCG 250IU ed
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
12-15wk
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50

Please let me know what you think. Also any suggestions for a cheap anti-e?

 

[nosnmiveins]

EQ needs to be run higher and longer if u really want to reap its benefits. doesnt matter that its ur first cycle. a MINIMUM of 400mg/week for ~14 weeks

 

[neverstop]

yeah, increase the EQ, and then you're going to want to do 2 things in the beginning of the cycle, the first thing is that you will want your first 2-3 injections to be 1000mg of test E, this will help get your blood levels up more quickly, the second is that you will want to probably use an oral for the first 3-4 weeks, nothing crazy, but just pick one you like and run it at medium dose, this will make the first 4 weeks interesting instead of boring.

good call running the HCG too man, you will really find that it makes life SO much easier, and its cheap anyway.

 

[masterdine]

Even thou I have done orals before I should treat this at my first cycle? Is it do to the injecting part?

Besides EQ what would be a good inject able to stack with or a very mild oral?

 

[masterdine]

1-10weeks
Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Equipoise 300mg/wk
10-12wk
HCG 250IU ed
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
12-15wk
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50


1-6 wk
Sustanon 250 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @ ???

7wk-12wk
Test Enanthate 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @ ???
HCG 250 IU EOD

12-14wk
Tamo 20mg/day

14-18wk
Tamo 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[RagingApe]

1-10weeks
Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Equipoise 300mg/wk
10-12wk
HCG 250IU ed
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
12-15wk
Tamoxifen 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50


1-6 wk
Sustanon 250 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @ ???

7wk-12wk
Test Enanthate 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @ ???
HCG 250 IU EOD

12-14wk
Tamo 20mg/day

14-18wk
Tamo 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50

EQ will give you slow, but steady gains and should be used longer than for two weeks. Use EQ as the base for this cycle and run it 12 weeks and run the test with it, you'll have some great results.

 

[FlexW99]

yeah, increase the EQ, and then you're going to want to do 2 things in the beginning of the cycle, the first thing is that you will want your first 2-3 injections to be 1000mg of test E, this will help get your blood levels up more quickly, the second is that you will want to probably use an oral for the first 3-4 weeks, nothing crazy, but just pick one you like and run it at medium dose, this will make the first 4 weeks interesting instead of boring.

good call running the HCG too man, you will really find that it makes life SO much easier, and its cheap anyway.

Agree with the oral comment, however, first cycle, I dont think theres a need to front load the test.

I'd even simplify further, run 10-12 wks

Run an oral for 4 weeks while using a test (500mg) as a base for the length of the cycle. Use rimmy EOD to keep bloat down and as anti-e. Finish up with clomid.

Save the EQ for your 2nd cycle and frontload that.

I think you'll be surpised how well you'll do with that basic cycle.

 

[masterdine]

Agree with the oral comment, however, first cycle, I dont think theres a need to front load the test.

I'd even simplify further, run 10-12 wks

Run an oral for 4 weeks while using a test (500mg) as a base for the length of the cycle. Use rimmy EOD to keep bloat down and as anti-e. Finish up with clomid.

Save the EQ for your 2nd cycle and frontload that.

I think you'll be surpised how well you'll do with that basic cycle.

this is the plan as off right now

1 wk
Sustanon 250 1g

2wk-12wk
Test Enanthate 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @12.5 eod

8-12wk
HCG 250 IU EOD

12-14wk
Tamo 20mg/day

14-18wk
Tamo 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50

 

[nosnmiveins]

this is the plan as off right now

1 wk
Sustanon 250 1g

2wk-12wk
Test Enanthate 500mg
Monday 250mg Thursday 250mg
aromasin @12.5 eod

8-12wk
HCG 250 IU EOD

12-14wk
Tamo 20mg/day

14-18wk
Tamo 20mg/day
Clomid 100/100/50/50

the only thing that might be worth changing is running the HCG weeks 10-14, up to u