Odd question: Is gear transdermal?

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  1. Odd question: Is gear transdermal?


    So sick of injects! LOL

    Let's say I want to pull out 1ml of test prop or tren ace (no long esters of course) and I rub this 1ml in liberally. Will it be absorbed? I know you lose 50% as it's being administered transdermally but is this possible?

    Thank you.


  2. There are ways to convert it to transdermal......but damn that's a waste of gear! I say suck it up and keep pinning....you made a commitment when you started the cycle.

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  3. if injecting is not for you you can always stop and take prime or something.....

  4. LMFAO WTF NICE

  5. oh did you see it before i edited???
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    if injecting is not for you you can always stop and take prime or something.....
    woah kinda harsh before it was edited.


    I'd stick with pinning. You can get some of it into your system transdermally and even some of the esters may be absorbed orally but there is little data on this. How much longer are you on cycle?

  7. Yes, I saw it prior to being edited. As far as being called a *** for not pinning.........I'm over 40 and have ran MANY a cycle and have pinned myself a TON.

    I just want to take th next year (or hell, even the next cycle) OFF from pinning. That's all. For me, I never "get used" to pinning. I am just not a fan.

    So, if I rub the stuff into the skin, will it work. Just looking for an answer,not a discussioin of IF I should inject or not. Thank you.

  8. no, it wont. but you can buy raw powders, and make up transdermals yes

  9. Thanks Easy

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Yes, I saw it prior to being edited. As far as being called a *** for not pinning.........I'm over 40 and have ran MANY a cycle and have pinned myself a TON.

    I just want to take th next year (or hell, even the next cycle) OFF from pinning. That's all. For me, I never "get used" to pinning. I am just not a fan.

    So, if I rub the stuff into the skin, will it work. Just looking for an answer,not a discussioin of IF I should inject or not. Thank you.
    it was a joke....and then i realized that my dry sense of humor and inflection generally dont carry over from my mouth to the keyboard....i see it was taken the wrong way....sorry

  11. ALL good man. I don't get into internet warfare.

    Sarcasm/senses of humor - good stuff in life! I just never met you so it came off a bit abrasive LOL

    Take care - nice to meet ya

  12. It's not that wild of a question. I knew a guy who mixed stuff up with DMSO and claimed he was absorbing it. I don't know where he got the ratios or how he was so sure, but either it worked as he claimed, or he wasted a lot of money and smelled like a walking turd for a while!

  13. If its that big a deal just pin sub q, or IM with a slin pin..

  14. Quote Originally Posted by methusaleh View Post
    It's not that wild of a question. I knew a guy who mixed stuff up with DMSO and claimed he was absorbing it. I don't know where he got the ratios or how he was so sure, but either it worked as he claimed, or he wasted a lot of money and smelled like a walking turd for a while!
    LMAO

    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    If its that big a deal just pin sub q, or IM with a slin pin..

    What muscles are best to slin-pin IM. I always feel like it doesn't hit muscle LOL. I'm not even that big at 200.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    LMAO




    What muscles are best to slin-pin IM. I always feel like it doesn't hit muscle LOL. I'm not even that big at 200.
    It doesn't really have to man. I have followed quite a few people doing TRT with a slin pin, just shooting it like an IM injection, and their levels are as predicted, and stable.

    I have done it in my delts, bi's, tri's, quad, etc with a slin pin. Also sub q on the stomach.

    Your obviously not going to want to shoot large amounts like this though. So if you need to get 1cc in, splitting it into 2 spots may be ideal.

    What dosage are you shooting for?

  16. WOW.This could prove to be helpful as heck for me.

    To answer your question, I am only trying to inejct 1 cc at a time.

    The concern I have, as stated above, is if I will actually even hit muscle (or that it falls short and ends up being a subQ inject).

    For example, if I am trying to do a tricep inject with a slin pin and it doesn't hit the tricep d/t the shortness of the pin, I am not convinced the gear will be absorbed as well subQ and as a result, not only will I notbe getting the intended amont of gear but my hormones will be less stable (d/t to the diff %'s of gear absorbed that particular inject day).

    Hmmmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    It doesn't really have to man. I have followed quite a few people doing TRT with a slin pin, just shooting it like an IM injection, and their levels are as predicted, and stable.

    I have done it in my delts, bi's, tri's, quad, etc with a slin pin. Also sub q on the stomach.

    Your obviously not going to want to shoot large amounts like this though. So if you need to get 1cc in, splitting it into 2 spots may be ideal.

    What dosage are you shooting for?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    WOW.This could prove to be helpful as heck for me.

    To answer your question, I am only trying to inejct 1 cc at a time.

    The concern I have, as stated above, is if I will actually even hit muscle (or that it falls short and ends up being a subQ inject).

    For example, if I am trying to do a tricep inject with a slin pin and it doesn't hit the tricep d/t the shortness of the pin, I am not convinced the gear will be absorbed as well subQ and as a result, not only will I notbe getting the intended amont of gear but my hormones will be less stable (d/t to the diff %'s of gear absorbed that particular inject day).

    Hmmmmm
    There are studies showing sub-q is just as effective as IM, and kept more stable blood levels.

    Are you using human grade gear?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    There are studies showing sub-q is just as effective as IM, and kept more stable blood levels.

    Are you using human grade gear?
    well, on a longer cycle. on a short cycle its iffy

  19. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    well, on a longer cycle. on a short cycle its iffy

    I can't speak for research, other then my own experience.. On my last t-prop cycle, mid cycle, to play around i started injecting with a slin pin, into the muscle, and a few shots sub Q in the stomach, and i noticed ZERO difference in how i felt, nor results, as shooting IM.

    I also had a friend try it from the beginning of his cycle, with test prop, and he had good results too..


    NOW i am not saying this is for everyone, but if this guy is having that much issue injecting, and is considering rubbing oil based Test prop onto his skin, then IMO this is a MUCH better solution.

  20. yeah, but well, with prop you really have closer to 3-3.5 day usable life, so it would even out pretty fast, i'd guess within 7-10 days. Most of HRT patients doing this would be starting from nothing, and using a longer ester to begin with like cyp. so it takes a bit longer for cyp to even out doing it subq, closer to a full month.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    yeah, but well, with prop you really have closer to 3-3.5 day usable life, so it would even out pretty fast, i'd guess within 7-10 days. Most of HRT patients doing this would be starting from nothing, and using a longer ester to begin with like cyp. so it takes a bit longer for cyp to even out doing it subq, closer to a full month.
    I am not so much even using stable levels as the main goal, rather that it is effective, since that was what was in question.

  22. ah, yeah, I was thinking stable and actually oddly MORE effective. from the studies on HRT it seems that most men needed something around half as much injected subq as im

  23. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    ah, yeah, I was thinking stable and actually oddly MORE effective. from the studies on HRT it seems that most men needed something around half as much injected subq as im
    Ya, i saw one study where they had to reduce from 100 to 50mg IIRC. I thought it was a 12wk study as well.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Ya, i saw one study where they had to reduce from 100 to 50mg IIRC. I thought it was a 12wk study as well.
    So in other words, shooting 250 mgs of test e a week sub-q is as effective as 500mgs shot IM ??
    Remember why you started.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    So in other words, shooting 250 mgs of test e a week sub-q is as effective as 500mgs shot IM ??
    Who knows man.. I am just letting you know what this one study found.

    The concern was weather or not it would be effective, and it is indeed effective..
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