Tren cycle with phera kick start

[RobbyG66]

Here my stats 5'10 274 18% bf.

tren ace
75 ed 8 weeks

phera
20/30/40/50
looking for suggestions on what to dose nolva at for pct

 

[nosnmiveins]

tren ace im assuming? if thats the case then it doesnt need a kickstart...its fast acting. have u ever run tren before?

 

[RobbyG66]

this will be the first tren run i wasn't sure if i would need to give it alittle jump or not.

 

[Smiley]

Everyone else will say this too, but this is a bad way to first use tren

 

[nosnmiveins]

this will be the first tren run i wasn't sure if i would need to give it alittle jump or not.

are u opposed to running test with it? i would at least use 250mg/week of test alongside to prevent libido problems

 

[RobbyG66]

i'm guessing your talking about running tren without test. i've been having trouble locking down some test.

so kick the phera and run test

 

[herc11]

I just got done with my first run of tren. I, like you, couldn't acquire the test so I went ahead and ran the tren alone. I started slowly at 35 ED to test my reaction/tolerance. I found that I tolerated it very well after about 2 weeks and bumped to 50 ED which seemed to be a good spot for me. The tren alone still worked very well, although it did effect the libido some. I ran it for 6 weeks and the only effect I had that I didn't enjoy was the lower back pumps which began happening around the 5 week mark. It was so bad during one of my leg workouts I had to cut my squats short.

I felt it worked pretty well and will be running another cycle for 8 weeks once my 6 weeks off is up. If I can get my hands on some test I'll definitely throw some in to combat the libido issue though, but I didn't find it mandatory.

 

[fueledpassion]

I just got done with my first run of tren. I, like you, couldn't acquire the test so I went ahead and ran the tren alone. I started slowly at 35 ED to test my reaction/tolerance. I found that I tolerated it very well after about 2 weeks and bumped to 50 ED which seemed to be a good spot for me. The tren alone still worked very well, although it did effect the libido some. I ran it for 6 weeks and the only effect I had that I didn't enjoy was the lower back pumps which began happening around the 5 week mark. It was so bad during one of my leg workouts I had to cut my squats short.

I felt it worked pretty well and will be running another cycle for 8 weeks once my 6 weeks off is up. If I can get my hands on some test I'll definitely throw some in to combat the libido issue though, but I didn't find it mandatory.

Which tren are we referring to here? (19-Nor)?

 

[snowmann]

real tren talk here lol ...

Not long ago I ran PPlex, EQ, Tren, and Test E ... had outstanding results. The PPlex is a great substitute for Dbol. Personally I wouldn't do any cycle w/out some form of test.

 

[heath1225]

I have used tren ace and p-plex for a 4 weeker before. I did 75 mg tren ED and 45 mg of P-plex ED and loved it. Great for strength and the P-plex kept my libido up.

 

[snowmann]

I've not heard of PPlex maintaining libido, when in fact it kills mine. I would not run tren w/out test and I certainly would not add more products and not run any test. To prevent mood swings, lethargy, and libido issues ... get some test.

 

[EasyEJL]

and 75 ED is high for first time too

 

[snowmann]

and 75 ED is high for first time too

Agree with Easy on that one.

 

[heath1225]

it wasnt my first time...and PP always increases my libido.

 

[EasyEJL]

Right, but it is the original poster's first time, so that is kinda high for him

 

[herc11]

Which tren are we referring to here? (19-Nor)?

Sorry late getting back, been away awhile... Anyways talking real tren here, TA to be exact.

Also I realize ideally you want to run with test, but he stated he isn't able to get some test which was the same prob I had. So I decided to try it alone which still worked well for me.