- 04-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Fairly positive i would like to run this cycle. Also looking for some advice on it. How i figured from research would be running
12 weeks of test at 500mg
12 weeks of deca at 250mg
Dbol run 25,25,50,50 for the first 4 weeks.
Does this sound like the right dosing?
Which serm would be recommend for this cycle?
What is the best way to run HCG and how necessary is it?
What supports should i use on this cycle?
What other extra's would be necessary or beneficial in PCT?
And lastly what should i expect to pay for everything?
Please do not flame if this is way off. Cycle is planned 6 months out and I am still very much learning. Thank you for your responses.
- 04-09-2009, 01:06 AM
04-09-2009, 01:47 AM
For HCG is it run just during pct? What i gathered is start at 250iu and run that for about a week and if nothing changes up the dose till the boys start to drop.
What would the reccommended clomid dosing be?
For the Deca is the 10 weeks started at the very beginning of the cycle or two weeks into it to finish when the test finishes.
Also is D-bol illegal?
Do you have any personal preferences for supports or pct supps?
04-09-2009, 02:35 AM
run hcg during cycle at either 500iu every 5th day or 250iu 2x a week. dbol is illegal in the usa just like test and deca. start deca when you start test that way you're giving the ester time to clear and still on the test before pct.
04-10-2009, 07:32 PM
04-12-2009, 03:30 AM
04-12-2009, 03:38 AM
taper up an ai at the end and taper down as the colmid tapers down?
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04-12-2009, 06:24 AM
why the rush are you at a sticking point? if your diet is fine and training is good and still not getting any where then if its a first cycle try test 400mg each week for 12weeks! your get some good results nolva/clomid on hand before during and after!!!! maybe next cycle sus deca d-bol!!! all the best
04-12-2009, 02:09 PM
04-13-2009, 09:35 PM
If I understand correctly, this will be your first cycle....as I indicated in the other post, this is WAY too much, especially for someone who is hypogonadal.....
04-25-2009, 04:33 PM
is hcg supposed to be run throughout the cycle? or we use it for mar 4 weeks n then take a few weeks break n start hcg again? for instance its a 12-14 week test prop-deca cycle?
also.. which AI wud u guys suggest to be run during the cycle? arimidex, aromasin, letro? n at what dosage?
04-27-2009, 02:02 PM
04-27-2009, 04:23 PM
04-27-2009, 04:26 PM
04-27-2009, 04:33 PM
04-28-2009, 04:44 PM
Hey guys this might be a little over the top but what is your take on adding in clen for the last 4 weeks of a cycle like this? I wouldnt do this for my first cycle but was looking at it for a second one assuming all goes according to planned with the first one. So it would look something like this:
100mg test prop 8 weeks
30mg dbol first 4 weeks
clen tapered up 60, 80, 100, 120 for the last 4 weeks
Possibly a dry compound along with the clen?
Once again second cycle idea, not first. Repped for any good input.
04-28-2009, 05:00 PM
looks like way too fast a taper
if I wanted to shed weight I would add some peptides like IGF/CJC1295. Increasing IGF levels burns fat real quick.
04-28-2009, 10:56 PM
04-29-2009, 02:19 AM
04-29-2009, 02:47 AM
[email protected] is what most do and is a normal protocol. I dont see a problem running [email protected] or so for the first few weeks. The thing is, when you add in more compounds and have side effects your lack of experience will not enable you to know which one is causing the problem. There is plenty of time to do cycles, keep it simple and run either test or test/dbol. I would run test/winny or var but whatever. The gains are much more keepable and with dbol you better keep some adex on hand because that is the only compound (dbol) that causes me to bloat and the feeling is so freaking unpleasant, trust me on this.
04-29-2009, 02:49 AM
04-29-2009, 08:35 AM
04-29-2009, 10:04 AM
There is plenty of time to do cycles, keep it simple and run either test or test/dbol. I would run test/winny or var but whatever. The gains are much more keepable and with dbol you better keep some adex on hand because that is the only compound (dbol) that causes me to bloat and the feeling is so freaking unpleasant, trust me on this.[/QUOTE]
Agreed, replace dbol with winny, test/winny is great combo, great strength, low on bloating, very affordable, still will gain good size, low sides, cant go wrong, probably one of my favorite combo's ever.
04-29-2009, 11:58 AM
04-29-2009, 05:52 PM
There seems to be two different topics being advised now. So to make it more clear:
First Cycle: Planned for this fall (pure bulking)
Test prop 100mg 8 weeks
Dbol 30mg first 4 weeks
Second Cycle: Planned for spring (lean mass and cutting)
Test prop 125mg for 10 weeks
Dbol 40mg first 4 weeks
Clen with proper pulsing for the last 6 weeks of the cycle (still looking at dosing protocol)
Please just refer to First or Second Cycle when commenting/advising. Thanks
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