Test E or Test C? what do you prefer?

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  1. Test E or Test C? what do you prefer?


    For a first cycle Test at 500mg a week for 10-12 weeks is pretty standard, but why do most go with Test E? Why pick E over C? Curious cuz I might be able to get a hold of only some Test C.


  2. cyp is usually 200mg/ml and is usually more expensive

  3. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    cyp is usually 200mg/ml and is usually more expensive
    you mean with cyp your only pinning 200mg a week?
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  4. There is only one carbon molecule difference between the two...you wont even be able to tell the difference between them, so go with whatever is cheaper....and besides, if its coming from a UG, its probably enanthate anyhow.

    holy

  5. Test E is stronger, and cheaper. Very good results w Test E. My favorite

  6. Quote Originally Posted by boggs67ss View Post
    you mean with cyp your only pinning 200mg a week?
    cyp is usually dosed at 200mg/ml where enan is usually dosed at 250mg/ml. its not a hard concept to grasp

  7. Like Holy said, you will not notice a difference between either of these compounds. Go with what you can get.

  8. They are virtually identical mg for mg. Go for the cheapest one like holy said.
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  9. no difference. go with whatever is cheaper just like the others said.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by POWER HOUSE View Post
    Test E is stronger, and cheaper. Very good results w Test E. My favorite
    Ditto. I find they are usually the same price, but with testosterone c, the ester is heavier. So test e, just cause you get a little more bang per buck.

  11. I'll chime in since no one said this yet... Go with whatever is cheaper.

  12. Some guys swear they do better on one than the other. I know a few guys that like cyp better because they say it gets their libido jacked up more than enan. I have heard that some report worse sides on one as opposed to the other. In the US, it seems that most docs prescribe cyp. Either way, most will not notice a difference, but some, whether it be perceived or not, notice a difference.

  13. I hear that most of the so-called differences between same estered steroids result from some of the gear being underdosed or just completely mislabeled. Test and Cyp shouldn't affect libido differently, or anything, at the same weekly dose.

  14. My buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.

    Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who knows.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    My buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.

    Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who
    knows.
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  16. cyp or enant?
    prop

  17. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    cyp or enant?
    prop
    Is prop ok to run for a first injectable cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boggs67ss View Post
    Is prop ok to run for a first injectable cycle?
    its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first time
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first time
    forsure, how long is an average prop cycle, like 8-10 weeks, or still 10-12 weeks like with e and c.
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    probably 10-12 still. given that prop is usually more expensive, there really isnt a big plus to it, other than possibly to use it as a front load or kickstart for test e/c. so you could pin higher doses of it while starting the test e, and by week 3 or 4 discontinue the prop.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    probably 10-12 still. given that prop is usually more expensive, there really isnt a big plus to it, other than possibly to use it as a front load or kickstart for test e/c. so you could pin higher doses of it while starting the test e, and by week 3 or 4 discontinue the prop.
    8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in

  22. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in
    4sure, I was just reading through your log, your cycle looks fun.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    its good and bad. good in that since the ester is shorter if things go sour (ie gyno) or other things happen you can clip the cycle short and it ends fast, unlike cyp or enan. the bad part is you are pinning every other day, so 7x in 2 weeks instead of 4x. so much more of a pain in the butt for a first time
    exactly , but for me its all good cause I like to pin myself ed in fact I love to do it

  24. Quote Originally Posted by boggs67ss View Post
    4sure, I was just reading through your log, your cycle looks fun.
    its definitely been a ride. im def bumping the doses next time though

  25. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    exactly , but for me its all good cause I like to pin myself ed in fact I love to do it
    LOL

  26. Quote Originally Posted by holyintellect View Post
    There is only one carbon molecule difference between the two...you wont even be able to tell the difference between them, so go with whatever is cheaper....and besides, if its coming from a UG, its probably enanthate anyhow.

    holy
    Why do you say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    My buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.

    Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who knows.
    Thats actually the opposite. I'd say his source just doesnt brew them the same. The biggest issue with cyp is that its harder to suspend in your brew (which is why you will see it brewed at 200mg/ml vs 250mg/ml like eth). It also crashes easier both in storage and potentially in depot. Having said that I'd still buy whatever is cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in
    yeah, but the enan/cyp also is still operating for 2-3 weeks after you stop injections Still an 8 week prop should be good enough for some nice gains, and not have to worry about hcg
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  28. Or the prop will be so painful your training will be limited in the first two weeks thus limiting gains. Just another thought.


  29. I guess i'm lucky, my prop feels like enanthate, neither cause any pain.

    The only pain i got was the first time i shot enanthate in my quads, got a massive tight spot that felt like my muscle was half cramped-up. After the first shot, all the muscles got real used to it, never been pain since.

    Prop is fine for a first cycle, get you to appreciate pinning

  30. I prefer prop.. The one down side for is for sure the price mg:mg with e/c, but i don't mind spending the extra.

  31. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    I prefer prop.. The one down side for is for sure the price mg:mg with e/c, but i don't mind spending the extra.
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.

  32. I use human grade prop 100mg dosed on 2ml and no pain at all, and after all aren't we bodybuilders , f**k pin pain
    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.
    your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks bro

  33. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Why do you say this?
    cyp costs more so UG just labels E as cyp to make more money and they know most can't tell the difference anyhow!

  34. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    I use human grade prop 100mg dosed on 2ml and no pain at all, and after all aren't we bodybuilders , f**k pin pain


    your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks bro
    Haha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?

    I could see why that would be painless as it's a mild concentration compared to our 100mg/ml standard.

  35. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Haha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?

    I could see why that would be painless as it's a mild concentration compared to our 100mg/ml standard.
    nothing better on a pct, lol
    about the test prop , correct

  36. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.
    I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.

    I guess we all have our preference

  37. prop all the way..pinned ED...the pain is bearable...ive run multiple cycles of homebrewed prop and never had pain that hindered my lifting...just massive gains in lbm

  38. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.

    I guess we all have our preference
    Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.

    Are the gains from Prop just as easy to maintain since they come faster and in a short period of time?

    Say a 8 week Prop run vs. a 12 week Test E run?

    Thanks.

  39. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.

    Are the gains from Prop just as easy to maintain since they come faster and in a short period of time?

    Say a 8 week Prop run vs. a 12 week Test E run?

    Thanks.
    Yea im reconsidering myself now, prop sounds good.

  40. prop's like heaven...throw tren in the mix and you got yourself a serious cycle
  

  
 

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