Test E or Test C? what do you prefer?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by holyintellect View Post
    There is only one carbon molecule difference between the two...you wont even be able to tell the difference between them, so go with whatever is cheaper....and besides, if its coming from a UG, its probably enanthate anyhow.

    holy
    Why do you say this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    My buddy has been around AAS for years and swears shots of Cyp are painless while shots of Test E are far more painful ml to ml.

    Whether or not that's due to increased concentration per ml or not... who knows.
    Thats actually the opposite. I'd say his source just doesnt brew them the same. The biggest issue with cyp is that its harder to suspend in your brew (which is why you will see it brewed at 200mg/ml vs 250mg/ml like eth). It also crashes easier both in storage and potentially in depot. Having said that I'd still buy whatever is cheaper.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    8 weeks is perfect for a prop cycle. it takes maybe a week to kick-in instead of waiting 4-5-6 weeks for enan or cyp to kick-in
    yeah, but the enan/cyp also is still operating for 2-3 weeks after you stop injections Still an 8 week prop should be good enough for some nice gains, and not have to worry about hcg
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  3. Or the prop will be so painful your training will be limited in the first two weeks thus limiting gains. Just another thought.


  4. I guess i'm lucky, my prop feels like enanthate, neither cause any pain.

    The only pain i got was the first time i shot enanthate in my quads, got a massive tight spot that felt like my muscle was half cramped-up. After the first shot, all the muscles got real used to it, never been pain since.

    Prop is fine for a first cycle, get you to appreciate pinning

  5. I prefer prop.. The one down side for is for sure the price mg:mg with e/c, but i don't mind spending the extra.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    I prefer prop.. The one down side for is for sure the price mg:mg with e/c, but i don't mind spending the extra.
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.

  7. I use human grade prop 100mg dosed on 2ml and no pain at all, and after all aren't we bodybuilders , f**k pin pain
    Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.
    your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks bro

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Why do you say this?
    cyp costs more so UG just labels E as cyp to make more money and they know most can't tell the difference anyhow!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    I use human grade prop 100mg dosed on 2ml and no pain at all, and after all aren't we bodybuilders , f**k pin pain


    your avy just gave me a testosterone surge, thanks bro
    Haha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?

    I could see why that would be painless as it's a mild concentration compared to our 100mg/ml standard.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Haha! Glad I could help. Do you mean your Prop is 50mg/ml and you use 2 ml per injection?

    I could see why that would be painless as it's a mild concentration compared to our 100mg/ml standard.
    nothing better on a pct, lol
    about the test prop , correct

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Might I ask why?

    If an AI is run throughout either cycle (Test E/C or Prop) is there much difference?

    Just curious.
    I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.

    I guess we all have our preference

  12. prop all the way..pinned ED...the pain is bearable...ive run multiple cycles of homebrewed prop and never had pain that hindered my lifting...just massive gains in lbm

  13. Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    I like the less bloat, and the fact that i don't need to run an AI(or very, low dose). I like the shorter lead/clear time.. Also for some reason i don't break out AT ALL on prop, yet on Ent, every time i break out like crazy, which is a BIG plus for me for prop. Maybe the hormonal swings? It just treats me better.

    I guess we all have our preference
    Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.

    Are the gains from Prop just as easy to maintain since they come faster and in a short period of time?

    Say a 8 week Prop run vs. a 12 week Test E run?

    Thanks.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Lean1038 View Post
    Damn! You guys have me reconsidering my first run now.

    Are the gains from Prop just as easy to maintain since they come faster and in a short period of time?

    Say a 8 week Prop run vs. a 12 week Test E run?

    Thanks.
    Yea im reconsidering myself now, prop sounds good.

  15. prop's like heaven...throw tren in the mix and you got yourself a serious cycle

  16. Quote Originally Posted by IRON4LIFE View Post
    prop's like heaven...throw tren in the mix and you got yourself a serious cycle
    its his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick in

  17. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    its his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick in
    what kind of orals you guys like to kickstart with, you ever use designer stuff?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by boggs67ss View Post
    what kind of orals you guys like to kickstart with, you ever use designer stuff?
    yeah,havoc would be a good choice cause it could also help with some estrogen control but for me the best thing to stack with test its inject masteron

  19. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    its his first cycle, i would do only prop and maybe some oral to kick in
    My bad...didn't read it thoroughly..i agree...tren should be held off until you have a few cycles under your belt...the stuff can be kinda harsh if your not ready for it...agree though..prop only is a solid first run

  20. Quote Originally Posted by IRON4LIFE View Post
    My bad...didn't read it thoroughly..i agree...tren should be held off until you have a few cycles under your belt...the stuff can be kinda harsh if your not ready for it...agree though..prop only is a solid first run
    Interesting statement about Tren "if you're not ready for it". Ive never tried it..is it something that your body sort of "toughens up" for if you've already done lots of Test?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by JohnnieFreeze View Post
    Interesting statement about Tren "if you're not ready for it". Ive never tried it..is it something that your body sort of "toughens up" for if you've already done lots of Test?

    no its something that u personally will never know how it affects u until u try it

  22. ^^^ agree.....for me, the night sweets and sleep disruption was brutal...although i was in college when i ran it, so being tired throughout the day wasn't as big of an issue as it would be now...i used to wake up every 2 hours soaked in sweet...tren's is amazing stuff, its just harsh..if your going to run it, make sure you've got some sort of sleep aid on hand...my choice was a handful of melatonin...
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