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  1. i have i think its a waste once the gains stop more test doesn't mean more gains, plus the harder you push yourself at the end of a cycle the harder it is to maintain .

    i have rtyed front loading with a bit of success but imo i just run the nominated amount for the cycle that way i know what im going to be like. i never start a cycle without orals, or finish one with out them.


    btw its not a pyramid cycle, a pyramid goes up then returns.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AUTO View Post
    i have i think its a waste once the gains stop more test doesn't mean more gains, plus the harder you push yourself at the end of a cycle the harder it is to maintain .

    i have rtyed front loading with a bit of success but imo i just run the nominated amount for the cycle that way i know what im going to be like. i never start a cycle without orals, or finish one with out them.


    btw its not a pyramid cycle, a pyramid goes up then returns.
    Testosterone is proven in clinical human trials to be dose dependant. That means the more you take the more it works.

    btw, I wrote an essay for Muscular Development on this trial. If you like I will post a link here that translates the science into gymrat.

    http://ajpendo.physiology.org/cgi/co...ll/281/6/E1172
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    im assuming we're talking about tren ace here?

    if ur a first time tren user i suggest 75mg EOD for 6-8 weeks alongside a Test of choice. u will also need to incorporate some HCG.

    expect some lean gains and strength increase as well as possible fatloss (diet dependent)
    You say HCG will be needed for a 6-8 week cycle of tren ace and test. What if I did a 6 week cycle (1 cart of tren ace) transdermal, along with transdermal 4ADiol? Could I get by with just nolva for PCT?
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