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Old 06-06-2008, 09:51 PM   #1
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This has GOT TO stop!

So for the past three or so weeks, I feel that I have not been digesting food as well as I should be. I never feel hungry, and I am dropping cals as we speak. I am now 600 cals below maintenance and exercising hard. But the thing is, my stomach is bloated, and I feel full at all times.

For a while there, I had felt good. The food I had put in my stomach had that burn to it in my gut. I felt and knew it was being used for fuel instantaneously. But now I feel like it just sits there.

I flipflopped my routine around for a bit, and jumped onto a bulk-style diet for a couple weeks a while back, as I feared I was losing too much strength. And now I'm back in for the cut. But I feel like I'm still on the bulk. Something is not right. I just got done with some intense exercise and I'm not hungry. But I'm gonna eat right now anyways. Got no better idea.

Can anyone help me with this? IT SUCKS. I suspect it's a slowed metabolism. How can I speed it back up. I mean, I am exercising well and eating 6 small meals a day; following that classic protocol. Did I jack myself up somehow?

Thanks, y'all.

P.S.- still doing good with my exercise, but my body feels like the food slowly being burned, and it feels like there is some still inside my gut whenever I put more in. It's no good. Can we do something about this, y'all? I would highly appreciate it.

Here's what/how I eat.

2500 cals
300g protein
350g carbs
30g fat

M1:50g pro/50g carbs (1.5 scoops whey, 2/3 cup oats, mixed berries)

M2: 50g pro/50g carbs (chili beans with 6 oz chicken)

M3: 40g pro/40g carbs (1 serving brown rice, 6 oz chicken)

PRE: 25g pro/30g carbs (1 scoop whey, 2/3 cup oats)
POST:25g pro/40g carbs (1 scoop whey, dextrose)

M4:50g pro/40g carbs (8 oz chicken, 1 serving rice, veggies)

M5:30g pro/20g fat (3 eggs, casein shake)

M6:20g pro/10g fat (cottage cheese)

*and on downdays, i cycle with a lowered carb diet with raised fats.
 



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Constipated?
 



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Constipated?
in a way, actually, yeah. i go 2-4 times a day, but i don't feel like it comes out with the same....gusto....it used to. maybe i should get back onto a bit if milled flax. i used to consume that bigtime and i would have real productive movements. they were frequent, quick, and large. my toilet was like a snakepit. but who knows, maybe all that flax was just pushing the food out of me before it had the chance to fully be used. confused!
 



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i just feel like i'm not burning food very well. i feel like when i eat food, there's still some in there sitting from before.

i eat actual meals 2-3 hours apart from one another. heck, i would eat them 5 hours apart from one another, but there's not enough time in the day, unless i eat 3 big meals a day, which is no good.
 



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i want to just eat when i'm hungry, but if that's only twice a day, that would be bad!
 



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i realized another thing. my schedule has sucked lately. sometimes i eat my first meal as late as noon or noon-thirty. that makes me have to slam my meals. i think i need a better schedule. if i had four more hours, would it help more?
 



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in a way, actually, yeah. i go 2-4 times a day, but i don't feel like it comes out with the same....gusto....it used to. maybe i should get back onto a bit if milled flax. i used to consume that bigtime and i would have real productive movements. they were frequent, quick, and large. my toilet was like a snakepit. but who knows, maybe all that flax was just pushing the food out of me before it had the chance to fully be used. confused!
lol TMI....
Have you been drinking more whey shakes lately?
I've noticed, now that I need more than one shake a day,
that whey actually makes me feel slow all around, slower digestion, tad lethargic for a while afterwards, etc. Thinking I need to just drink egg whites or something for a while and see if there's a change.
 



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Here's what/how I eat.

2500 cals
300g protein
350g carbs
30g fat
Any stats?

who can give valid info regarding your intake without knowing your height, weight, bodyfat...?


BTW, your math is wrong.

300g protein= 1200kcal
350g carbs= 1400kcal
30g fat= 270kcal
total kcal= 2870kcal
 



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Any stats?

who can give valid info regarding your intake without knowing your height, weight, bodyfat...?


BTW, your math is wrong.

300g protein= 1200kcal
350g carbs= 1400kcal
30g fat= 270kcal
total kcal= 2870kcal

whoop-d! i meant 250g carbs. i stand at 5'10''; 207 lbs.; likely to be now at 14-15% BF.

i think i figured out my problem. i would like to see if anyone can agree. i figured out that i'm simply waking too late, which is forcing me to eat my meals 2 hours apart. i have a slower metabolism (i've always put on weight, not quality weight, but weight, easily). and then, on top of that, i take in 25% of my daily cals within 2 hours before bedtime. i don't think that's the greatest idea either. and last but not least, i have slowed down with my fruit/veggie eating and it's been replaced with grains/beans more. i thought that the more complex carbs i ate, the more my body'd work to process them, the more fiber, and the more sustained energy i'd have. but i feel like sheeeeeeeeyat!

so, i may have to start waking earlier. and eating more the way i feel good doing it. can y'all please throw me a bone on this? i never ask for much, y'all!
 



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I've felt that way before and a tsp of flax before each meal for a few days worked wonders. It 'coats' your stomach when taken before eating and makes for smoother, more complete so to speak. I felt 500% better in a couple days. It may be worth a shot.
 



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How much produce and fiber do you consume??
 



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Well you can always "Purge" your system, and get a fresh start.

Try some Senna 6-8 tabs per day for two days.
Drink TONS of water.
Then start a good prebiotic to reestablish your intestinal flora. Something like GUT health would work well for you.
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i'm gonna address all posts within this one. by the way, thanks for the input, guys!!!!! i love this place.

my water intake is 1 gallon per day.
i get my 9 servings of fruits/veggies a day usually, but lately, that may be lacking. i may only be getting 6 servings a day now.
so i think i can go back to adding more veggies and fruits. i think an apple, some celery stalks, and a bit more sweet potato might be beneficial. those are my three FAVORITE produce items. my fiber is good-to-high as standards go, but i think what kind of foods i eat affect my movements. i noticed i felt a lot better at times when i had milled flax/more fibrous fruits in my diet. perhaps i need them again in more abundance.


*****OVERALL, i think i will do all of the above. i think i'll start with a purge, so to speak. i have everything i need for that. then, i'll add in some milled flax, replace some grains with a couple small apples (apples are good to my insides), eat more veggies again, and up my water. i admit i have slacked on the water consumption. i used to drink it like a banshee at ALL TIMES. but now i'll sometimes go 3 or so hours without any; i mainly now just drink it during training. i think i can re-up my water drinkage and that'll help as well. flushing out the ol' pipes.

i guess i'll just have to apply myself here. thanks for the input, guys! and i'll update on how everything.....comes out.....

that reminds me of a movie i once saw called "Cold Mountain." there was a character of a reverend played by Philip Seymour Hoffman, and he said in this whiny voice, "I used to be able to set my watch by my bowels. But now....I got turds stacked up inside like lil' twigs." hhahahahahah! that's what i hear in my head about 10 times a day.

i'm gonna fix it!
 



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