Ephedrine and Blood Glucose
- 03-07-2008, 02:10 AM
yea I agree with everything you said...but I am not new to insulin use. I have used it with AAS before as well.
I dont think that the natural secretion of insulin PWO is necessarily important to calculate. What I meant was using 2 or so IU WITH an overcompensated amount of carbohydrates. did you assume I meant keeping carbs the same and then adding extra slin? I would agree that is of no use and probably dangerous.
I conclude (for myself at least) that it is probably best used with AAS...and anytime thereafter is not really going to produce the type of muscle growth benefits that would outweigh the risks of use.
- 03-19-2008, 09:31 AM
good to know, didnt know EC raises glucose ,been tryin to get into ketosis [bodyopus]and having a very hard time .Bought a meter and the lowest I got was 70.Looked into METFORMIN but you cant get without a script[suspect Im boarderline" D" [runs in family] While I searching ,came across GALEGA OFFICINALIS supposed to be what METFORMIN is made from ,anyone ever use?
- 03-19-2008, 10:33 AM
03-19-2008, 11:34 AM
I was thinking of this the other day. Which has promt my interest to by a blood glucose meter even more. I'm def going to pick one up and not only test this but a few things (BCAA at different doseing, etc....)
Wont be until Mid-May but I'll def do it and make a big thread.
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03-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Say your blood glucose concentration has gone up by an amount X that requires Y iu of insulin to bring back to baseline. If you then take Y iu but also eat an amount of carbs to match then you would end up at X (from ECA) + X (from carbs) - X (from Y insulin) = X back where you started. With insulin and blood glucose it is simply additive and subtractive. The fact that you have elevated insulin in you system does not mean that it will regulate BG to normal, it has to be balanced.
Of course if you are not diabetic, your body's own insulin will work that X back to zero at its own pace once the ECA leaves your system.
03-19-2008, 12:44 PM
03-19-2008, 09:32 PM
03-19-2008, 09:37 PM
03-19-2008, 09:55 PM
03-19-2008, 09:57 PM
quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
Research in healthy adults shows that mental efficiency declines slightly but measurably as blood glucose falls below 65 mg/dL (3.6 mM) in many people. Hormonal defense mechanisms (adrenaline and glucagon) are activated as it drops below a threshold level (about 55 mg/dL for most people), producing the typical symptoms of shakiness and dysphoria. On the other hand, obvious impairment does not often occur until the glucose falls below 40 mg/dL, and up to 10% of the population may occasionally have glucose levels below 65 in the morning without apparent effects. Brain effects of hypoglycemia, termed neuroglycopenia, determine whether a given low glucose is a "problem" for that person, and hence some people tend to use the term hypoglycemia only when a moderately low glucose is accompanied by symptoms.
03-19-2008, 10:17 PM
03-20-2008, 02:53 AM
This figure is too low...from my experience (I test myself all of the time w/ a glucometer). Nitrox is the expert in this area...it is great to have access to his knowledge so definitely pay attention to what he says.
03-20-2008, 02:55 AM
03-24-2008, 05:42 PM
03-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Wait a minute, my bad... norepinephrine does play an underlying role too. I guess it depends on the mode of action. I relate norepinephine increases in reference to NRIs which reuptake the neurotransmitter NE in which it just causes a more wakeful state.
Freedom means nothing here.
03-24-2008, 05:56 PM
03-24-2008, 06:14 PM
03-26-2008, 08:44 AM
Im havin a hard time tryin to get into ketosis ,lowest I got on my meter was 74 [this meter is wacked ,gives diferent readings only seconds apart]this "goats rue" sup thats supposed to be what metformin is made from doesnt seem to work very well --lucky for me I checked and my real metformin just made it thru costoms!
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