Why am I not in Ketosis???
02-25-2008 05:05 PM
I agree with using fat for fuel I just dont want to go into a ketogenic state to do it. With 30 grams of carbs a day your still burning fat
Originally Posted by lozgod
02-25-2008 05:13 PM
Originally Posted by arjun4
Only if you are not getting enough fat in the diet.
02-27-2008 10:55 AM
So should I be taking in some fat before my workouts to keep my body from turning the BCAAs into glucose?
02-27-2008 12:42 PM
Since you're NOT in ketosis, adding fat pre- or post- won't spare your BCAAs. I suspect you're getting more carbs than you believe.
Don't know if it's still in print, but "The Ketogenic Diet" will teach you more than you want to know (Lyle McDonald, author).
02-27-2008 12:57 PM
Thanks for your input BodyWizard
Originally Posted by BodyWizard
This would be the likely culprit but I think i've done a pretty good job in using fitday.com to track my kcals ( I measure everything and I understand I dont have this down to an EXACT science ).
I have now cut out the coffee ( which before I used 1 creamer and 1 sweetner on the 2-3 coffees I had a day ) and have switched to green tea with nothing in it. I also cut out the broccolli and cauliflower that I was eating to try ang get my CHO count down even further.
I used another ketostick and it looked like it was somewhere inbetween 0 and 5 dg/ml ( sorry if it isnt dg/mL im just going on the quick look I did this morning ).
What should the dg/mL be to be in ketosis? Does it just need to change ever so slightly, 5 dg/mL, to be in ketosis or will I need more ketones to be present to hit ketosis?
03-06-2008 11:53 AM
I Am Finally In Ketosis!!!
Thanks for everyones help in figuring out exactly what was keeping me from my goal.
I completely cut out my BCAA ( Xtend ) supplemantion this week and hit ketosis on wednesday afternoon.
I also cut coffee from my diet, usually 3 a day ( made w/ 1 creamer and 1 splenda ).
Next week I will try to reintroduce coffee to see if that was the cause or if it indeed was the Xtend which I am making the primary suspect.
Going to have to rep Arjun for the link he posted which I've inturn reposted numerous times for people ( and I try to give you credit whenever possible ).
Thanks Arjun and AM.com
03-06-2008 11:54 AM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to arjun4 again.
03-08-2008 11:26 PM
OK, so whats the deal on Xtend, I love the stuff and im going to be starting the AD diet on monday..
Yay or neh on the extend?
03-09-2008 12:19 AM
i use xtend and follow a certain CKD. I have been doing a variant of CKD for years.
What people are failing to realize more often than not is that you need to up the intake of (healthy) dietary fat to stave off the gluconeogenesis due to high protein, low carb diets.
03-09-2008 12:06 PM
So using extend doesn't add to carbohydrate intake?
03-09-2008 02:52 PM
I was just starting to question this as well. Would taking Xtend during WOs and some additional glucogenic Aminos PWO (Glutamine, Phenlymine, Luecine) have a negative impact on becoming and staying fat adapted on AD?
Or even more generally how do free form aminos, like Xtend, impact AD?
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