[kruzedgar]

I know there is a % that does get stored as fat but I was told the other day that this amount is negligible. Is this true? Surely this means then that carbs before bed wont make you fat?

[Heat Miser]

Depending upon the degree of your glycogen depletion, whether it be from training or just plain depletion in situations of carb restricted diets, or insulin resistance, excess carbs will for most, especially if hypocaloric, result in fat accumulations. Unless you are training late, taking carbs in excess before bed is not the best time.

[kruzedgar]

Originally Posted by B5150

Depending upon the degree of your glycogen depletion, whether it be from training or just plain depletion in situations of carb restricted diets, or insulin resistance, excess carbs will for most, especially if hypocaloric, result in fat accumulations. Unless you are training late, taking carbs in excess before bed is not the best time.

This is what I thought! But this guy is telling me like his life depends on it, using loads of terms that sound like they are coming out of a biology text book, that carbs just dont make you fat. He says it the insulin from the carbs causing fat to be stored?

[kruzedgar]

He also recomended a nutritional break down like this:

Meal protein carbs fat
1 60 100 30
2 60 100 0
3 60 100 0
4 60 100 0
5 60 100 0
6 60 100 0

Thats all grams by the way!

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by kruzedgar

He also recomended a nutritional break down like this:

Meal protein carbs fat
1 60 100 30
2 60 100 0
3 60 100 0
4 60 100 0
5 60 100 0
6 60 100 0

Thats all grams by the way!

That equates to:

360 grams of protein for 1440 calories
600 grams of carbs for 3600 calories
30 grams of fat for 270 calories

Thats a total of 5310 calories and a macro% of 27/63/10

Unless you are an ectomorph and or 260lbs or more and on steroids I see you getting fat real quick.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by kruzedgar

This is what I thought! But this guy is telling me like his life depends on it, using loads of terms that sound like they are coming out of a biology text book, that carbs just dont make you fat. He says it the insulin from the carbs causing fat to be stored?

Ask him if he knows anything about fatty acid synthesis and acetyl-CoA/malonyl-CoA elongation.

In aerobic respiration, carbs break down to acetyl-CoA for entrance into the krebs cycle and ATP(energy) synthesis. When energy becomes excessive(lots of carbs), glucose and acetyl-coa shift to pro-fatty synthesis by activation of the enzyme acetyl-coa carboxylase. This active enzyme begins the process of fat synthesis by adding two carbon units(acetyle-coa aka carbs) in a synchronized fashion to form a pure 18 carbon fatty acid chain.

[Heat Miser]

Yeah, what prld2gr8ns said!

[jonny21]

Originally Posted by kruzedgar

He also recomended a nutritional break down like this:

Meal protein carbs fat
1 60 100 30
2 60 100 0
3 60 100 0
4 60 100 0
5 60 100 0
6 60 100 0

Thats all grams by the way!

Well, based on this recommendation we know that they do not know what they are talking about. Just ignore them, get a book or two on human nutrition/metabolism and learn. That type of macronutrient breakdown is way too imbalanced.

[wontdie]

Originally Posted by kruzedgar

This is what I thought! But this guy is telling me like his life depends on it, using loads of terms that sound like they are coming out of a biology text book, that carbs just dont make you fat. He says it the insulin from the carbs causing fat to be stored?

Therefore, eating carbs ==> Insulin secreted ==> fat!

Eating carbs WILL result in insulin being produced.

Sugars will result in a large amount of insulin being released in a short amount of time (Insulin spike). Therefore, soft drinks are extremely fattening.

Complex carbo (and those with lots of fibre, e.g. Oats) will result in a slow release of sugars into the body, and less insulin being secreted per unit time. Therefore, complex and fibrous carbohydrates are less fattening.

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by kruzedgar

He says it the insulin from the carbs causing fat to be stored?

This is "guns don't kill people, bullets kill people" logic. You don't get the bullet without the gun. Avoid the gun, you avoid the bullet.

[RoidRageX10]

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[RoidRageX10]

What about carbs in Milk and Yogurt? Would that make me fat? I drink a lot of milk near the end of my day. Is this a bad thing?

[prld2gr8ns]

In excess anything will add fat, even protein. There is a chance that late evening consumption of large amounts of carbs could be less utilized(due to less activity), and thus more likly to be stored as fat.

[RoidRageX10]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

In excess anything will add fat, even protein. There is a chance that late evening consumption of large amounts of carbs could be less utilized(due to less activity), and thus more likly to be stored as fat.

hmm so what about cassein shakes and cottage cheese? wouldnt those be turned into fat as well? Im trying to get to 170 but its hard eating most of my daily 4,000 calories before 5 PM. Would you like to see a sample of my diet so you could help me out with my meals later in the day?

[Heat Miser]

Originally Posted by B5150

That equates to:

360 grams of protein for 1440 calories
600 grams of carbs for 3600 calories--should be 2400
30 grams of fat for 270 calories

Thats a total of 5310 [4210] calories and a macro% of 27/63/10 [34/57/9]

Unless you are an ectomorph and or 260lbs or more and on steroids I see you getting fat real quick.

My numbers were off!!! My bad.

[dsade]

Originally Posted by B5150

My numbers were off!!! My bad.

But your conclusion was still accurate.