Optimise Blood Pressure and Cholesterol
01-22-2008 03:16 PM
Optimise Blood Pressure and Cholesterol
Looking for some advice as to lowering my bp and improving my chol. I do take 10mg of Lisinopril for high bp. I am looking to get off Lisinopril safely and want to get some advice to anything that works.
BP Ave. 146/83 with heart rate 100
LDL - 138
HDL - 49
CHOL. TOTAL - 211
CHD RISK (Dont know what this is) 4.30 (4.4 or lower is best)
Tri. - 120
So basically I am looking to make myself healthier. My diet is clean, LOTS OF RAW VEGI'S, 3 PCS FRUIT/DAY), workout 4 days a week (dont really do cardio but starting, I know this is hugh).
fish oil 2g (thinking of quiting, no niticable change or feeling)
01-22-2008 09:05 PM
You can up the fish oil to 10-12g per day and try celery seed extract. That did wonders for my BP when I was taking some "stuff". It's also good for cholesterol.
I don't have natural high BP but within a few days of taking this while "on" it went away completely. Might be worth a try.
I don't know if it would interact with your Lisinopril so check with your doctor or ask the pharmacist.
You should also try and cut out caffein because that is a vasoconstrictor which makes your BP higher.
01-22-2008 10:25 PM
3 grams or more of calcium per day..preferably coral calcium or cal citrate.
Add psyllium or ground oats to your protein shakes.
Niacin..learn to love the flush.
01-23-2008 07:06 AM
I took 2 seporate reading last night and they both were pretty good.
134/78 hr of 88
123/73 hr of 83
Those are good numbers but that is with taking lisinopril and taken with a home bp machine which I take into consideration +/- 5%-10%. I think the machine is more accurate than 10% but I use the high side as a gauge.
For years my bp was 140/95-100 on ave. with lisinopril so not exactly why it is lower now since most everything is the same in my life.
What I want to do is get off lisinopril for a while to see where my levels go. Thats where supplementation comes in.
I take 1000mg Now brand fish oil (not sure the % of oils) at 2g/day. Maybe I'll up it then switch to liquid when pills are gone. How much Niacin and what brand do you recommend?
01-23-2008 11:00 AM
Brand is not too important with niacin IMO. Just get the straight niacin..not the no flush stuff. I take 500 mg 2x per day. Take with food to blunt the flushing/burn.
01-23-2008 12:38 PM
I donít know about you, but my cholesterol is very sensitive to diet and exercise. Iíve had it as high as 320 and as low as 160 w/o meds. Your resting HR of 80-100 suggests a need for cardio. I see youíve started, just keep it up (along with the other sups mentioned.) Youíre cholesterol isnít that high, so I think there is a good chance diet and cardio will do the trick for you.
Those electric bp monitors donít work well for me, the typically run about 15-20% higher than the bulb one in the doctorís office.
01-23-2008 12:55 PM
My chol. hasnt ever been off by much. Like to lower my LDL under 100 and raise HDL to 55+. Not sure really how to do this but I recently added more vegi's, fruit and fiber so we will see.
I guess I never placed much on that cardio plays a role with chol. I did know what HR really meant as far as the numbers and what they mean and where they come from. You mentioned that my levels make you think I need to add more cardio. How do you get that. Its true just woundering.
Did resting BP last night.
134/83 HR 88. Checked it a few hours later.
123/88 HR 78
I have been on lisinopril for a few years and want to get off it. Its not causing any side effects that I know of. I just dont like taking so many meds and if I can get off any of them safely that is my goal.
Any info on the supplement Life Support? Looking for foods/supplements for general good health. I take 2g fish oil but it has been suggested to me to increase it to 5-6g/day. I'm reading/researching on that and its 50/50 as far as people opinions.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time and the info. Love to pick peoples brain and their opinions.
01-23-2008 01:26 PM
I didnít mean you need more cardio, just that youíre on the right track by starting. You didnít mention how much youíre doing. Personally, in terms of cholesterol and HR, I only need about 2 30 min sessions each week. Lifting by itself does jack for this, but maybe the combination works.
I find cardio indispensable. I donít particularly enjoy it, but from experience I know I have to.
Iíve never done Life Support, but Iím thinking about trying it. I tried hawthorne berry, celery seed, and coq10 before w/o success, but Iím thinking of trying again. My doc recently put me on Norvasc, but I wouldnít mind getting off it, except itís cheaper than LS.
Up the omega 3ís. Iím not sure what the optimal amount is. I suspect more than 2, I take ~6. Itís good for your joints, too. I think you can find it in pub med.
BP commonly drops at night, esp after exercise, mine does
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