Oats deplete testosterone?

  1. Oats deplete testosterone?


    Hey everyone,

    So I've been eating a lot of oats lately (about 3 cups/day) and that may not be much to some people but its more than I'm used to. Anyways, I noticed that Oats help remove cholesterol and as many of us know, cholesterol raises testosterone by converting to DHEA, Andro, then Test.

    My question: How much is too much for someone wanting to keep test. high? Has there been a study on this?


  2. I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
    Hypercortisolemia? that's not good...what limit should I put on daily oat consumption. Its very easy to throw some in my protein shake and head out in the morning, snack during the day, and after workouts w/ dextrose. That's why I've been consuming more than usual
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
    Cushing's disease?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by LilPsychotic View Post
    Cushing's disease?
    Technically, yes, but not due to an adenoma. It is usually due to low-grade metabolic acidosis from a highly acidic diet. Oats is one of the most acidic foods in a typical BBer diet (as is brown rice). This is another reason why it is so important to consume 5-8 servings of produce; they help to buffer this potential acidosis.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  6. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
    Thank you for the comment Rodja. Upon further investigation for my own sake (I eat a lot of oats,) I found an article that included in it a list of common acidic and basic foods.

    http://nodiets.wordpress.com/2007/03...th-every-meal/

    It looks like raisins(-21.0) and spinach(-14.0) are the best foods to counteract acidity.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Thank you for the comment Rodja. Upon further investigation for my own sake (I eat a lot of oats,) I found an article that included in it a list of common acidic and basic foods.

    http://nodiets.wordpress.com/2007/03...th-every-meal/

    It looks like raisins(-21.0) and spinach(-14.0) are the best foods to counteract acidity.
    This is one of the main reasons that my sources of complex carbs are Basmati rice and potatoes-acidity. The rice is very low and the potatoes are actually alkalinic.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  8. I eat my oats with almonds and raisins to avoid the heart burn it causes me.

  9. so all in all oats arent going to lower test but cause a flux in acid??? this aint too good i have like 2 cups of oats ED at least along with many other complex carbs.... looks like ill be getting some raisins for snacks.

  10. This sucks. I easily eat 3 or 4 cups of oats a day.

  11. Not to negate Rodja's comments, as they are valid, but he was stating worse case scenarios, in my humble opinion. I have never been much of a proponent of Alkyline/Acidity metabolic diets, but that is merely my stance.

    His warning was simply that over representation of this particular dietary element possibly leading to a condition characterized by a lack of base in the bloodstream.

    Though, I would definitely agree on his thoughts on produce.

  12. And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
    i envy you guys sometimes and then i hear bot all your customs issues ad say theres no way i could deal with that.... guess if you had a freind state side they could always repackage it for you and relabel it to send it across, but still i envy your guys health system.

  14. Add some fresh fruit to your oats. I usually throw blue, black, raspberries, bannas, and anything else I may have around. This helps with acidity.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
    Your posts express a valid point, but that fact remains that a diet that is too acidic is bad for you, and it hurts.

    If I ate 5 cups of oats without leaves/almonds/calcium I would be in a lot of pain.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
    I didn't know you were a fellow Canadian! And as a student, I've personally eaten atleast 100-200g of oats daily for about the past couple of years, always for breakfast and tossed in shakes and I haven't run into any problems. I don't know how you get those full metabolic panels though mullet, my docs are cheap and never want to run decent bloodwork. I have to keep prodding them, saying "and perhaps we should check out the this or that" lol. I do eat loads of veggies though (Carrots are only $1.50 for a 10lb bag )

    Oh and I always have berries and flax with my oats (no flax around workouts tho)

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I didn't know you were a fellow Canadian! And as a student, I've personally eaten atleast 100-200g of oats daily for about the past couple of years, always for breakfast and tossed in shakes and I haven't run into any problems. I don't know how you get those full metabolic panels though mullet, my docs are cheap and never want to run decent bloodwork. I have to keep prodding them, saying "and perhaps we should check out the this or that" lol. I do eat loads of veggies though (Carrots are only $1.50 for a 10lb bag )

    Oh and I always have berries and flax with my oats (no flax around workouts tho)
    Really? I just tell my Doctor I'm very in-tune with my body and fitness oriented and he arranges them for me. I've never had an issue getting full panels.

  18. RaiZD in Toronto!!!

    Anyways, this is what really gets me...I eat a bunch of brown rice and have been consuming Oats frequently for the past couple of years. My acid reflux got so bad that I had to go to the hospital this past summer for overnight stay. I was in lots of pain and they actually had to give me Morphine & Dilaudid for all the pain.

    The b@stard doctors ask me what I eat and I told them, "lots of food, about 6-8 meals/day, brown rice, oats, pasta, chicken,..."

    They couldn't tell me my diet was contributing to my acid reflux? Dumb doctors!!! All they gave my was some generic BS like, "Stay away from sports supplements"

    Thanks for the info guys, I'll be mixing in more basmati in my diet while decreasing my intake of oats

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Really? I just tell my Doctor I'm very in-tune with my body and fitness oriented and he arranges them for me. I've never had an issue getting full panels.
    Hmm, I'll try that line the next time I see my GP. It would be kinda nice to get a monthly panel done.

  20. Yeah, I just tell him it's to practice general health. They are refreshed with that sentiment usually.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Technically, yes, but not due to an adenoma. It is usually due to low-grade metabolic acidosis from a highly acidic diet. Oats is one of the most acidic foods in a typical BBer diet (as is brown rice). This is another reason why it is so important to consume 5-8 servings of produce; they help to buffer this potential acidosis.
    Hmm that sucks because that's like my main source of carbs right there

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Kata1yst View Post
    RaiZD in Toronto!!!

    Anyways, this is what really gets me...I eat a bunch of brown rice and have been consuming Oats frequently for the past couple of years. My acid reflux got so bad that I had to go to the hospital this past summer for overnight stay. I was in lots of pain and they actually had to give me Morphine & Dilaudid for all the pain.

    The b@stard doctors ask me what I eat and I told them, "lots of food, about 6-8 meals/day, brown rice, oats, pasta, chicken,..."

    They couldn't tell me my diet was contributing to my acid reflux? Dumb doctors!!! All they gave my was some generic BS like, "Stay away from sports supplements"

    Thanks for the info guys, I'll be mixing in more basmati in my diet while decreasing my intake of oats
    Most doctors don't know crap about nutrition.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
    That, my friend, is what I call luxury. America has got it all messed up. Reminds me of Lewis Black...."There are countries that may be giving sh*t away every day!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatastud08 View Post
    Add some fresh fruit to your oats. I usually throw blue, black, raspberries, bannas, and anything else I may have around. This helps with acidity.
    Great advice. Cinnamon is also a great addition to oatmeal.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy9 View Post

    Great advice. Cinnamon is also a great addition to oatmeal.
    Recent research has shown zero effect on glucose metabolism by cinnamon.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  25. Quote Originally Posted by eatingisfun View Post
    Most doctors don't know crap about nutrition.
    Yeah, it pisses me off. They also have the nerve to slap you with a $2400 hospital charge. What did they do? Administer morphine and then send you home. News flash, that **** runs $10-20 bucks on the street.
  26. Question Lol


    I think you'll be okay with your oatmeal: I eat 7-8 Cups a day of Whole grain oatmeal and I've been if anything getting stronger and stronger.

    Best Recipe:
    2-3 Cups of wholegrain Oats
    3Tbsp of Vanilla Non_Fat Yogurt
    1Tbsp PB
    1Tbsp Cinnamon
    1-2Tbsp of Honey

    Call it the power oatmeal ^_^
    :clean:

  27. i go through about 400g of oats a day without any problems, a friend however has been getting lots of heartburn recently and has just been using oats recently so it looks like it could be that
  

  
 

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