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Old 01-18-2008, 02:11 PM   #1
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Oats deplete testosterone?

Hey everyone,

So I've been eating a lot of oats lately (about 3 cups/day) and that may not be much to some people but its more than I'm used to. Anyways, I noticed that Oats help remove cholesterol and as many of us know, cholesterol raises testosterone by converting to DHEA, Andro, then Test.

My question: How much is too much for someone wanting to keep test. high? Has there been a study on this?
 
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:22 PM   #2
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I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
 



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I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
Hypercortisolemia? that's not good...what limit should I put on daily oat consumption. Its very easy to throw some in my protein shake and head out in the morning, snack during the day, and after workouts w/ dextrose. That's why I've been consuming more than usual
 
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I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
Cushing's disease?
 
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Cushing's disease?
Technically, yes, but not due to an adenoma. It is usually due to low-grade metabolic acidosis from a highly acidic diet. Oats is one of the most acidic foods in a typical BBer diet (as is brown rice). This is another reason why it is so important to consume 5-8 servings of produce; they help to buffer this potential acidosis.
 



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I doubt that they will deplete cholesterol that much and you should also be consuming cholesterol and saturated fats. That much oats per day may cause hypercortisolemia, but not hypocholesterolemia.
Thank you for the comment Rodja. Upon further investigation for my own sake (I eat a lot of oats,) I found an article that included in it a list of common acidic and basic foods.

http://nodiets.wordpress.com/2007/03...th-every-meal/

It looks like raisins(-21.0) and spinach(-14.0) are the best foods to counteract acidity.
 



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Thank you for the comment Rodja. Upon further investigation for my own sake (I eat a lot of oats,) I found an article that included in it a list of common acidic and basic foods.

http://nodiets.wordpress.com/2007/03...th-every-meal/

It looks like raisins(-21.0) and spinach(-14.0) are the best foods to counteract acidity.
This is one of the main reasons that my sources of complex carbs are Basmati rice and potatoes-acidity. The rice is very low and the potatoes are actually alkalinic.
 



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I eat my oats with almonds and raisins to avoid the heart burn it causes me.
 
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so all in all oats arent going to lower test but cause a flux in acid??? this aint too good i have like 2 cups of oats ED at least along with many other complex carbs.... looks like ill be getting some raisins for snacks.
 



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This sucks. I easily eat 3 or 4 cups of oats a day.
 
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Not to negate Rodja's comments, as they are valid, but he was stating worse case scenarios, in my humble opinion. I have never been much of a proponent of Alkyline/Acidity metabolic diets, but that is merely my stance.

His warning was simply that over representation of this particular dietary element possibly leading to a condition characterized by a lack of base in the bloodstream.

Though, I would definitely agree on his thoughts on produce.
 



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And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
 



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And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
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Add some fresh fruit to your oats. I usually throw blue, black, raspberries, bannas, and anything else I may have around. This helps with acidity.
 



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And to add my personal experience, I have consumed 4-5 cups of Oats a day for pragmatic (money) reasons in the past, and had absolutely no issues whatsoever. I also had full metabolic panels run during that period, as I live in Canada, and, well, they are free.
Your posts express a valid point, but that fact remains that a diet that is too acidic is bad for you, and it hurts.

If I ate 5 cups of oats without leaves/almonds/calcium I would be in a lot of pain.
 
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