Do Preworkout Supps/Creatine count as carbs in Anabolic Diet/CKD Diets

[hockeyroom28]

I forgot to check my supps and saw that my preworkout and creatine have carbs in them.

Superpump, 8g carbs, 0g sugar
SizeOn, 31g, 4.7g fiber, 14.5 g sugar

The SizeOn is sipped during workout and Superpump taken 30mins before on an empty stomach. Do these count in the 30g/day limit?

[hockeyroom28]

bump plz

[skunkman]

If your on the Anabolic Diet any CHO that you put into your body is counted. If the air your breathing has CHO count it. Be paranoid!!!!! Do not forget to subtract the fiber from your totals.

[Eject]

I forgot to check my supps and saw that my preworkout and creatine have carbs in them.

Superpump, 8g carbs, 0g sugar
SizeOn, 31g, 4.7g fiber, 14.5 g sugar

The SizeOn is sipped during workout and Superpump taken 30mins before on an empty stomach. Do these count in the 30g/day limit?

yes, yes ,yes, yes and yes

You have to be sooo careful on the anabolic diet, i personally consume 6 meals per day, so you want to have under 5g carb per meal, or no carb per meal and eat carbs later on (post workout meals maybe)

even 30g is pushing it, i tried to keep mine under 15-20g

[CryingEmo]

4 eggs have 2 carbs.

2 tablespoons of milled flaxseed have 1 carb.


.5 ounces of walnuts have .5 carbs.

1.5 cups of spinach is .5 carbs.


You thought you were eating carb free, but if you ate the above, you just had 4 carbs.

[Steveoph]

2 tablespoons of milled flaxseed have 1 carb.

I usually trust nutritiondata, and according to them 2 Tbsp should only have 0.2g carbs http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20p1.html , or 0.1g per Tbsp . But really we're talking tiny amounts here, but for those that are paranoid every decimal counts!

[skunkman]

One thing that i forgot to mention is that during the transition phase of the diet is when you need to be extremely strict. During this time you are forcing the body to use fat for energy. By consuming hidden CHO you could be hindering the transition process and potentially leaving yourself in a metabolic purgatory .....of some sorts.
If you are going to use Mauro's outline he clearly states that as you become fat adapted you can start to tweak the diet to your personal goals.
Some athletes will do better with higher CHO during the week. About 60 percent will be completely fine the way it was originialy outlined.

Are doing a CKD such as Twin Peaks or the AD?

[hockeyroom28]

I'm doing the AD and I'm on Day 4 of the shift.