100% whole wheat powder exist?

[BIGGUNZ401]

I been looking around the forums and I noticed dextrose - which is a simple sugar and maltodextrin which is not a complex sugar.. Is there any complex carb sugars in powder form available?

The reason why I ask is I wanna mix some complex carbs into my ON whey protein to save some money instead of buying the pre mixed stuff.

 

[warbird01]

I been looking around the forums and I noticed dextrose - which is a simple sugar and maltodextrin which is not a complex sugar.. Is there any complex carb sugars in powder form available?

The reason why I ask is I wanna mix some complex carbs into my ON whey protein to save some money instead of buying the pre mixed stuff.

there was talk of ground up oats. or you could opt for WMS (kwik karb)

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

there was talk of ground up oats. or you could opt for WMS (kwik karb)

i guess ill just eat 100% whole wheat bread with my shakes..

quick question about using kwik karb for post workout..

I have been doing my research and im supposed to consume about 50 carbs post work out, 25 dextrose and 25 maltodextrin. If i was taking kwik karb for post workout I Just take 50 grams of that and no dextrose or maltodextrin??

 

[bpmartyr]

Here ya go:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/avant-research/supercarb-2-5-lb.html

 

[rpen22]

Here ya go:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/avant-research/supercarb-2-5-lb.html

:goodpost:

It's a very low GI carb that is metabolized slowly, avoiding the spike that comes along with normal sugars. It tastes like sugar, but about half as sweet and it works perfectly when throwing a couple tablespoons into a protein shake.

 

[warbird01]

:goodpost:

It's a very low GI carb that is metabolized slowly, avoiding the spike that comes along with normal sugars. It tastes like sugar, but about half as sweet and it works perfectly when throwing a couple tablespoons into a protein shake.

Kind of general question but whats the GI of WMS, SuperCarb, and dextrose?

 

[rpen22]

Kind of general question but whats the GI of WMS, SuperCarb, and dextrose?

I'll have to do a little bit of searching for the GIs of WMS and dextrose, but SuperCARB has a GI of 32.

 

[warbird01]

I'll have to do a little bit of searching for the GIs of WMS and dextrose, but SuperCARB has a GI of 32.

thanks man, some **** is a ***** to find on the GI scale, im searching too

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

Here ya go:
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/avant-research/supercarb-2-5-lb.html

holy crap!! you made my day.. So it has a low Gi value?? whats the GI value of 100% whole wheat breaD?

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

one more question.. so 40 g of suparcarbs would be the same as 40g of 100% slow digesting carbs??

also how well does it mix???

sorry for the questions. Im just trying to learn more as I go everyday.

 

[rpen22]

holy crap!! you made my day.. So it has a low Gi value?? whats the GI value of 100% whole wheat breaD?

According to this post, it is around 99.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/493981-post1.html

 

[rpen22]

one more question.. so 40 g of suparcarbs would be the same as 40g of 100% slow digesting carbs??

also how well does it mix???

sorry for the questions. Im just trying to learn more as I go everyday.

One tablespoon of SuperCARB provides 11.2 grams of carbohydrates. While they are technically 11.2 grams of sugars, they are metabolized much slower than sucrose. To give you a specific example, I'll quote the SuperCARB write-up:

a 60g dose, in a 200lb person, increased blood glucose by only 1/3 of that which was produced by sucrose at the same dose. Additionally, it did not significantly increase blood triglycerides, a property NOT shared by sucrose and fructose. While blood glucose quickly falls to below baseline fasting concentrations with rapidly metabolizing sugars, it remains at the ideally elevated level for several hours with SuperCarb™.

 

[rpen22]

also how well does it mix???

sorry for the questions. Im just trying to learn more as I go everyday.

It mixes pretty much the same as table sugar would. They are VERY similar texture/bulk-wise.

And don't worry about asking questions; that's what we're here for.

 

[rpen22]

thanks man, some **** is a ***** to find on the GI scale, im searching too

I'm still unsure about the GI of WMS. I've seen conflicting information, from it having a GI of 41-45(as quoted by Nate Wolfe) up to ~137.

You might be able to get more information by asking someone like DSade or TrueProtein. Sorry I'm not of more help with this.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

According to this post, it is around 99.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/493981-post1.html

thats insane for a product to have such a low gi value.. I dindt realize Wheat bread was so high in gi value. I always thought it was good for bulking because it doesnt spike inuslin levels

 

[bpmartyr]

Try some sprouted grain bread. It is made without grinding the grains into flour which greatly increases the GI. You can find it at Trader Joes, Wild Oats or other granola chompin, socks & sandals, tree huggin type markets.

 

[rpen22]

You can even find it in some of the big chain grocery stores in the freezer section.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

Try some sprouted grain bread. It is made without grinding the grains into flour which greatly increases the GI. You can find it at Trader Joes, Wild Oats or other granola chompin, socks & sandals, tree huggin type markets.

ohh okay like a "whole foods" market with organic stuff.. What breads do you eat for your complex carbs?

 

[rpen22]

ohh okay like a "whole foods" market with organic stuff.. What breads do you eat for your complex carbs?

Personally, I eat Ezekiel 4:9 sprouted grain bread. It's got a very low GI as well.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

Personally, I eat Ezekiel 4:9 sprouted grain bread. It's got a very low GI as well.

i see where can i find some of that??

What do you think of Pumpernickel Bread, rye bread (whole wheat), oatbran bread?? Would you recommend eating that instead of whole wheat bread?

http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index.htm

i just checked out this link and it seems to have a lower GI value than whole wheat bread!

 

[rpen22]

i see where can i find some of that??

What do you think of Pumpernickel Bread, rye bread (whole wheat), oatbran bread?? Would you recommend eating that instead of whole wheat bread?

http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index.htm

i just checked out this link and it seems to have a lower GI value than whole wheat bread!

That's the stuff I believe BP was explaining where to get earlier. Besides those places like Whole Foods and Trader Joes, you can often find it in the freezer section of the chain grocery stores. http://www.foodforlife.com/

I've never really looked into those other breads, though. I don't eat a ton of bread, but when I do, it's Ezekiel bread.

 

[Ziricote]

What ever happened to fine powder oats? I know we have 'em in the UK so I'm guessing you must have it across the pond, might be worth checking out.

 

[dsade]

Ezekiel is the ****!!

 

[rpen22]

Ezekiel is the ****!!

Werd.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

That's the stuff I believe BP was explaining where to get earlier. Besides those places like Whole Foods and Trader Joes, you can often find it in the freezer section of the chain grocery stores. http://www.foodforlife.com/

I've never really looked into those other breads, though. I don't eat a ton of bread, but when I do, it's Ezekiel bread.

i love bread because it more convenient.. im too lazy to cook rice.. haha well im gonna order some naplam and stack it with ECA!!! and im gonna run a log.. thanks for your help dude!

 

[rpen22]

i love bread because it more convenient.. im too lazy to cook rice.. haha well im gonna order some naplam and stack it with ECA!!! and im gonna run a log.. thanks for your help dude!

No problem. I'll watch for your log so I can follow along. Should be a good stack.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

Try some sprouted grain bread. It is made without grinding the grains into flour which greatly increases the GI. You can find it at Trader Joes, Wild Oats or other granola chompin, socks & sandals, tree huggin type markets.

it increases the gi value?? wouldnt you want to decrease the gi value? the lower the gi value the better?

 

[rpen22]

Grinding the grains increases the GI. The sprouted grain breads aren't made that way.

 

[dsade]

it increases the gi value?? wouldnt you want to decrease the gi value? the lower the gi value the better?

Depends on timing, IMO...a good mix of GIs can be a valuable tool.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

Depends on timing, IMO...a good mix of GIs can be a valuable tool.

Right right, just trying to figure out the best bread to eat with a low gi value to replace some complex carbs when i start to bulk

What is the gi value of Ezekiel anyways?? I just called the company but they are closed right now.

 

[rpen22]

Right right, just trying to figure out the best bread to eat with a low gi value to replace some complex carbs when i start to bulk

What is the gi value of Ezekiel anyways?? I just called the company but they are closed right now.

The plain Ezekiel 4:9 bread has a GI of 36.

 

[dsade]

Right right, just trying to figure out the best bread to eat with a low gi value to replace some complex carbs when i start to bulk

What is the gi value of Ezekiel anyways?? I just called the company but they are closed right now.

Essene/ezekiel bread (sprouted cereals bread)


35

taken from here:

http://www.montignac.com/en/ig_tableau.php?list=alpha#E

 

[rpen22]

They even include the GI on the label of their bread(which is where I got 36 from ).

 

[dsade]

They even include the GI on the label of their bread(which is where I got 36 from ).

Or you could just do it THAT way.

/D!CK

 

[rpen22]

:numbered:

(I really just wanted to use this smiley for the first time.)

 

[dsade]

:numbered:

(I really just wanted to use this smiley for the first time.)

Well played, sir.

 

[BIGGUNZ401]

The plain Ezekiel 4:9 bread has a GI of 36.

i just got a hard on thinking about the GI value!!! haha I cant wait to go to whole foods and get this bread!! I eat so much bread everyday.. Especially on my high carb weekend days!

 

[warbird01]

So any verdict on teh GI of dextrose and WMS?

 

[dsade]

So any verdict on teh GI of dextrose and WMS?

I think dextrose is somewhere near 125. Not sure about WMS, but it is NOT low GI, just that there are other factors to weigh besides GI.

I am still leaning towards Supercarb and Kwik Karb as the ideal during/PWO carb source.

 

[Turk]

Old thread I know but I'm just getting around to reading some of the threads I've bookmarked. You could always add whole wheat flour to your ON shake. I've done that before to add carbs and all it does is make the shake a lil thicker.