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Old 08-18-2007, 03:47 PM   #1
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Switching to CKD Jan 1, 2008....any reason not to????

After I was lazy and PMed Ubi for some info about CKD, which he ignored me like he should have.....

Any way, I have been looking at pro's/con's of CKD over the past week and Im really looking to switch over to it almost full time at the begging of the new year. I would only take a week off of it at a time at most, and will only be for vacations and what not.

Is there any reason I shouldn't, can you really "add mass/bulk" on the CKD? The other thing im haveing a hard time with is, how will my body adapt back to normal eating habbits in 10 or 15 years?

So everyone knows im 5'9" 185~187ish now @ about 10~13%.As of Jan 1, I plan on beeing close to 190 @10%BF with a little help from Superdrol and IGF-1

I'd like to maintiane at around 180lbs and bee in the single digits BF wise
 



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Old 08-18-2007, 09:31 PM   #2
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I thinking of switching pretty soon myself...

Is there a good link explaining the CKD diet? How does it differ from the Anabolic Diet I've read about in other threads? Are they both keto?

Im deciding which one to do... sorry to threadjack but my only goal is to get to certain weight and constantly recomp all year like you OP

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I would make sure your having enough fat especially if your feeling lethargic, or look into Intermittent Fasting.
 
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i did ckd for a while look at log

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I thinking of switching pretty soon myself...

Is there a good link explaining the CKD diet? How does it differ from the Anabolic Diet I've read about in other threads? Are they both keto?

Im deciding which one to do... sorry to threadjack but my only goal is to get to certain weight and constantly recomp all year like you OP

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I just went to google and searched CKD diet
 



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ok here it is, you eat 60% of your cals from fat+35% of your cals from protein and 5% from carbs.

here is what my diet looks like diet:
meal 1: two whole eggs, 1 egg white, 1/4 cup cheddar, 4 strips bacon(fish oil)
meal 2: 3 ozs sliced ham, some cheddar cheese w/ mustard
meal 3: 1 tablespoon natty pb(fish oil)
meal 4: 8oz sliced turkey w/ 2 oz sliced ham w/ a few slices cheddar w/ a few slics baby swiss
meal 5: five and a fourth tablespoons flax seed oil(fish oil)
(amouts a little of oz is an estimate)probably 2 much
fitday:2183cals, 154g fat, 17g carb.,185g protein
%s=63%fat+3%carb.+35%protein


a smart thing to do would be to buy "ketostix" which are urine analysis (pee on strip tell you if ur in KETOSIS or not) once you are in KETOSIS you can lower fat cals down. to around 55%
DONT WORRY ON THIS DIET FOR THE FIRST COUPLE DAYS IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO FIND ENERGY U HAD WITH MODERATE CARBS. DURING WORKOUT DONT GIVE UP!

ON THIS DIET YOU WILL LOSE BODYFAT AND GAIN lbm
 




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ne questions???
 




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ON THIS DIET YOU WILL LOSE BODYFAT AND GAIN lbm
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Yes, is that guaranteed?
 
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Is there any reason I shouldn't, can you really "add mass/bulk" on the CKD? The other thing im haveing a hard time with is, how will my body adapt back to normal eating habbits in 10 or 15 years?
Just my $.02 but I wouldn't try bulking without daily carbs.
 
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Just my $.02 but I wouldn't try bulking without daily carbs.
I thought the same thing, but after reading more and more on it, it looks like it is possible. It's just not as quick as if eating alot of carbs.

Maybe I could for see 2lbs added in a month while in a surplus of cals. That 2lbs was muscle without gaining any fat vs. with carbs is may be 6lbs total...maybe 3lbs muscle/2lbs water and 1lb fat??? See what im getting at?

I have become really interested in maybe trying this come Oct. 1st @ a maintenence phase, with added cardio 3times a week. Do it for all of Oct. and then when Nov hits jump on Superdrol for 3 weeks while doing CKD in a surplus and stay in a CKD surplus until after P.C.T. and see where im at. To be honest while in school @ 16credit hours it'll be alot easier doing a CKD diet over a regular bulking diet anyways.
 



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here is diet from last three days

day one :
meal 1:4 egg white 2whole eggs ,1/4 cup cheddar, low carb ketchup
meal 2: 2 chicken breasts on bed of lettuce w/ salad dressing
meal 3: 2 table spoon natty pb
meal 4: 2 more chicken breasts w/ alot of blue cheese dressin on more lettuce
meal 5: 2 tablespoons natty pb
1448 cals,57f,3c,39p

day 2:
meal 1: lots of bacon 5 slices, 3 whole eggs, 4 egg whites
meal 2: 40 oz gladiator shake (70g protein 7 carbs 8 f
meal 3: 2 tablespoons naty pb
meal 4:broccoli w/ cheese
meal 5: 2 big scoops of cream cheese
1400, 53f,5c,39p

day 3(this day better)
meal 1: 3 whole eggs, 1/4 cup cheddar
meal 2: bunch of deli sliced turkey w/ 2 slices cheese, pepperonis
meal 3: 2 chicken breasts w/ lean body low carb shake
meal 4: 1 scoop ON 100% whey PWO
meal 5: 1 cup raw peanuts, salad w/ a lil chicken
2137,53f,5c,45p

my workout today was crazy
bench supersetted flys 10 sets each

dips supersetted w/ skull crushers 9 sets

weighted crunches 4 sets

leg raises 2 sets

obliques 3 sets

40 mins of cardio (20mins hit 20 mins medium)
 




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Yea I got all that down weezy..thanks....

The training and diet. Im just wondering how my body will adapt when I resume a normal diet and how people that do CKD are doing
 



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ok sorry for trying to help...and im on CKD now with awesome results....
 




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No I wansn't trying to be a ****, just saying I have that whole aspect down I said that because you posted your diet twice and I checked out your log. I thought i had posted that my bad
 



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^ oh sorry bro its cool my bad thanks for looking at log REPPED!
 




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